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Originally Posted by serpentgal
Here is how it went exactly Ill take picture of the dead snake later. Dan did at one point leave me a message saying he d refund me for the dead one but he never retuned my calls again. These are the snakes I purchased. First shipment was an albino eastern diamondback female $1250. Appeared in great health I called and complimented dan. 1.1adult yellow ratsnakes wild caught long term captives. I wanted cb but he promised theses were doing great so I agreed $110 for the pair 1.1 devils garden corns the female was smaller than we had discussed so I promptly retuned her and ate the shipping. dan credited me for her. 1.1 northern pines $160 looked great the female was small but not thin. 1.1 corns again the female was small but not thin $225. 3 baby yellowbellies doing fine still today, 5 cuban frogs also doing great and 3 cane toads that were doing fine until I found out how illegal they are and had to freeze then. Not tans fault. No real problems so far. I Quarantined all of dans snakes in a small room together in there own cages fresh water aspen for the most part and the room (my pantry) had never had snakes in it before. I did not attempt to feed any of the snakes for the first week. at the end of the week I made a deal for more snakes from dan. this shipment came the next day and this is where the problems began. That night when I got the snakes I fed the first shipment as I unpacked the second the pine female would not eat neither would any of the yellows. I wasnt to concerned I figured even after a week they may still be in shock from the long ship. I unpacked the second group of snakes which included 1.1 texas bairids rats the female was emaciated and just like the devils garden corn way to small for the next season. I could tell that this snake had eaten in its life but had not eaten in a long time. next the texas rats came out. there was a regurge in the container. I tried to call dan but new he was on his honeymoon so I wasnt to worried when I didnt contact him. the shipment was done last minute and dan said he was shipping full snakes so I assumed the stress of shipping caused this very foul regurge. I set them up together. Next were a pair of normal diamondbacks looked great and I never had a problem with these. dan also included in this shipment a replacement cain toad because one of them had rubbed its nose raw in shipping. As I unpacked the animals I kept the packaging together to be reused. one week goes by the devils garden corn regurged the texas rats both ate but then regurged the normal corns ate then just the female regurged the bairds rat female died the male ate then regurged the female pine finally ate a hopper after several attemps then reguged two days later. the yellow rats ate and kept down food the diamond backs albino included did fine but I knew at this point something was seriously wrong. I began calling dan 2 times daily for one week a week after he went out of town. two weeks no contact. I had no where else to put the infected snakes so I had to ship them back. I decided I better send them all back since the parasite at hand was contagious and obviously spreading through dans snakes before I got them. It confused me more because one of a pair would keep food down while the other regurged. the snakes that were regurging were the ones that came smaller I.E. the pine female was the same age as the male (siblings) but she was a foot shorted and weighed half as much. Dan was mad because he wanted to replace the dead snake and any of the ones I could prove were sick and I refused his compensation and said I was returning all of them. the only outside snake that made it in that room was a boa yearling that escaped and made her way into the pantry. I found her in the room as I was packing dans snakes IN THE SAME EXACT PACKAGING THE SAME WAY THEY CAME Let me mention that three weeks have gone by in the meantime and I have wasted mouse after mouse feeding snakes that suprizingly have great appetites but just regurged after a day or so. Even though some of the snakes such as the albino diamondback were doing ok they were shipped in close contact with the bairids rat that died so I felt I couldnt safely keep her. Three weeks after talking to dan last in person ( he hung up on me several times when I blocked my number or used someone elses) I very reluctantly sent out the snakes I knew Id never be compensated for. I paid out the you know and lost it all. Dan admits he got the shipment I dont believe they were dead.
I used ship you reptiles and last I checked they werent cookin snakes. I have also sent alot of stuff to dan IE turtles eastern chain kings and more. No problems untill now. Really. I know I lost all my money and dans friends, friends that he probably wouldnt do this to, are gonna come up here like drones and defend him but put it this way; All Im getting for my $2000+ dollars is the ability to post this and that sucks. So take it as you see it. I wouldnt have sent back all those snakes to someone who already refused to refund me unless something was seriously wrong. Dans friends wont be able to answer that question watch them aviod it all together. And please stop giving me a hard time. I really got it bad enough ok. Its like dans got a whole army of detictives trying to clear him and he won ok dan cannot be a victim he got the money and the snakes. This all started because dan takes wild snakes and sells them if you go to his site now there is plenty of proof of that. Anyone with any logic could see that dan is a prime candidate for bringing parasites and disease into a captive situation. It is almost cetain when dealing with that many wild specimens. I dont understand why thats so hard to grasp but I certainly dont care about your money anymore anyway. I will post a picture or the dead ratsnake tomorrow Im sure someone will remember seeing it on his site.
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I am curious to know hog long you have been dealing in reptiles ???
Feeding the snake/ the same day you receive them ????? NOT SMART.
That alone would release me from any obligations.
And are not aware, that if a snake regurg's ...your supposed to wait a minimum of 10 days before trying to feed that snake again ????
By not waiting, you just escalate any problems.
If these snakes were as sick as you say they were...why would you pack them up and subject them to the stress of being shipped again
You knew that you were getting WC animals ..... then you should know the potential problems that go along with them.
Did you actually take any of the animals to a vet, to confirm these problems you mention?
You mention that we will avoid "that question" ....I didnt see a question .
Pretty long statement there ...but not a sliver of PROOF
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