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Old 12-19-2009, 10:52 AM   #221
crazytailreptiles
yeah i had every test they could do, ran. everything came back ok but then some numbers had been a little to high but once the specialist looked her over and after all that now she is healthy and ginger is a very sweet snake and about james repaying me is a line of bull i know he just wanted to try to keep me calm from reading what happen to your snake SakaraGT4 and am sorry about the snake...but as soon as i heard the snake passed i took ginger to have test done oh and james if you really Feel like you need to do the right thing? like you said you want to....Pay off my vet bills.....then refund me for ginger like you promised back in Sep....i think......Better yet when you "feel" like doing the right thing and wanna pm me with some BS that your going to repay me....Dont. , so now back to a whole group of healthy snakes ( :
 
Old 12-19-2009, 11:11 AM   #222
SakaraGT4
I don't think IBD can be transferred to coloubrids. pneumonia, yea. but I'm pretty sure IBD is just in boas and pythons.
 
Old 12-19-2009, 11:52 AM   #223
crazytailreptiles
i know, but it was just the fact that is was such a Devastating disease and that he flips reptiles Who knows what mine Could like gotten from another unlucky animal in his care.
 
Old 12-19-2009, 12:43 PM   #224
SakaraGT4
that is very true. who knows what else could have been floating around -_-
 
Old 12-19-2009, 09:56 PM   #225
reticguy76
remember that pneumonia in itself is not an actual disease, its the illness or result from a disease. all pnuemonia is, is fluid in/on the lungs. it is usually caused by, in snakes, upper respiratory infections, that have gone untreated and the infection has migrated and settled in the lungs. there are no documented cases of ibd being in any snake other than certain boidae species
 
Old 12-19-2009, 10:47 PM   #226
hhmoore
I'll go along with pneumonia not being "a disease".....but it is an illness, and it is caused by pathogen (it isn't just fluid).
Also, IBD has been documented in non boids (one paper I saw cited mentioned viperids, and I think there was something else).
 
Old 12-19-2009, 11:08 PM   #227
SakaraGT4
I think the viper disease is a little different then IBD. I've heard of that one as well.
 
Old 12-19-2009, 11:38 PM   #228
hhmoore
I don't mean to side track this any further, but: http://jvdi.org/cgi/reprint/13/1/82.pdf
While the title says "resembling", it is referred to as IBD throughout the article. Toward the end, it also states that a kingsnake housed with boas was diagnosed with IBD.
 
Old 12-20-2009, 12:49 AM   #229
crazytailreptiles
you guys do realized i knew about the guild lines of IBD and how i wasn't checking for that since it is a corn snake but other parasites and disease that could have been picked up by the other reptiles in James care?
 
Old 12-20-2009, 08:47 AM   #230
lanceheads
IBD HAS been found in viperids, old world Vipera ssp.
-just saying-


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