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Old 10-19-2002, 09:04 PM   #11
Uffern
Gambino, if you want your words to carry any kind of weight you need to answer the questions put to you by others, rather than trying to deflect them as you just did.  Have you proof of the substandard quality of Rob and Neil's animals?  

Also, I am very interested in knowing who is on this list of conspirators.  Please, provide us with the full list.
 
Old 10-19-2002, 09:09 PM   #12
alfon76
Hi Kevin:

spam_ I am going to take Neil's position in this and respect your opinion as you are 100% entitled to one. I have never purchased and animal from Neil or Rob but I have never heard of any problems with their animals. As far as your accusations (opinions)towards me, well I don't know where to start. I have no idea who you are and I have never even exchanged any conversations with you. I have never considered myself a "Top-notch" Vet as you called me, but I do know my reptile medicine and surgery and I do know a lot about chameleons. I have posted only on a few threads in this BOI and I can back all my opinions/accusations 100%. This is a place where info is exchanged for the benefit of the community. If my comments offended you or any of your friends, I am sorry as I am posting here only to give my point of view in situations (just like everyone else). I am far from being in a "bandwagon" or "group" as you can see how many posts I have contributed here. I guess you should write everyone else's name in your list since everyone posts here for good reviews or bad reviews.
spam_ Anyone reading your post should also take your opinions "like a grain of salt" because you are also accusing some of us here without the slightest idea of what you are talking about and obviously with some kind of personal vendetta.
 
Old 10-19-2002, 09:10 PM   #13
oreganus
I have never done business with any of them, so I can not speak for the animals they sell.  I do agree with the fact that alot of good people are slammed on the BOI.  And alot of this is from people that have no idea about the person, they simply jump to conclusions off of one person's post.  I have dealt with hundreds of people, only had a couple that I had problems with,  it only takes one person to post on the BOI and everyone else to jump in that have nothing to do with the situation, but assume they know the facts, and POOF! You lose all the business and you are pretty much bent over.  That is my only real problem with the BOI and THE PEOPLE THAT JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS WITHOUT KNOWING THE TRUTH.  
JUST MY THOUGHTS, LET THE FLAMES FLY!!!!
Kevin Smith <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>
 
Old 10-19-2002, 09:10 PM   #14
Neil Gubitz
Uh Oh.... here we go again?<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>
OK.... anybody want to wager on how long THIS thread will get???
But, you guys have all the fun you want.... I'm not going to get back in this one.... it's too dangerous!
....Neil
 
Old 10-19-2002, 09:18 PM   #15
Mike and Erica @ MotherGecko
This is a male Veiled Chameleon I purchased from Rob @ RK Reptiles over a year ago when this pic was taken. &nbsp;The Chameleon is still alive and well and fathered over 100 babies for me.

This is a male Montuim Chameleon also puchased from Rob at RK Reptiles. &nbsp;This Chameleon was in top health when I purchased it, AND when I sold it to a local family whom has nothing but praise for us selling them such a healthy animal.



I have also gotten a nice Graceful chameleon that was a great pet for us! &nbsp;Pic is availible by email if anyone would like it. &nbsp;

Here is one last pic for kicks of a baby hatching from a female Veiled we purchased from Rob. &nbsp;The mother laid 44 eggs for us in that clutch and had a very high hatch sucess rate.


I believe every animal I have recieved wether bought or traded from Rob has been Top Quality and at a great price. &nbsp;Again only my 2 cents.........
 
Old 10-19-2002, 09:23 PM   #16
Rob @ RK Reptiles
Kevin,

First off I have never done business with you that I can recall. spam_Yes you have the right to express your OPINIONS all you want and I have no problem with that at all. Hell I served and fought for this country to defend that right. spam_If my animals are as you call </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Rob and Neil Both sell animals at top dollar and the condition is less than satisfactory </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Than why do I have so many repeat customers, and why does my customer base grow larger every day? spam_Where did you get any information that mine or Neil's animals are inferior?? spam_How can a person critique a sellers animals without any first hand knowledge?? If you have any proof of any of my animals being less than great, by all means post yout proof. I would love to see it.
I will say this to everyone that reads this thread, I stand behind my animals and my customers know this and love my quality of animals. spam_Something I find funny about this, we all know this is regards to the Chameleon Condo thread, as that is the only thread that Ivan has posted about. spam_And Mike is from Chameleon Condo is the only person that has had a complaint against me.
 
Old 10-19-2002, 09:29 PM   #17
The BoidSmith
Kevin,

And here I am posting after Neil. It is obvious that you are new to this site. I would re-direct you to some of the older threads just to read our past arguments with Neil. If you have trouble finding them I can do that for you. I have disagreed with Neil in multiple ocassions and probably will continue to do so, as we see things differently. But that has absolutely nothing to do with his animals or his business. I'm sorry you feel that way and it is obvious that you didn't take the time to read some of the past history. Anyways this thread probably belongs to the discussion section if at all. There is no grounds for it to be here.

Have a good one!
 
Old 10-19-2002, 09:44 PM   #18
jlepsch
Kevin, what exactly prompted this? &nbsp;I'm a bit confused as to what the core issue is here.
 
Old 10-19-2002, 09:47 PM   #19
HerpVenue
Jeff I think he just wanted to be included in all the "fun"

but that is just my opinion....and it is posted with no hard facts. &nbsp;. &nbsp;So take it with a grain of salt.
 
Old 10-19-2002, 09:49 PM   #20
Gambino
[b]The whole purpose of this thread is to try to get people to think a little about what they write about someone, before they post.

Rob and Neil,
I used the two of you as examples, to show what happens when someone posts. Everyone gets upset,and has something to say. My main point is a lot of good companies get slammed here by people that don't know what they are talking about.If a new thread is started, and you don't have first hand experiance with either side, I think you should keep your opinions to YOURSELF.(INCLUDEING ME) <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>
 

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