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Old 05-28-2003, 07:45 PM   #1
Herpkingdom
So you want to be a Reptile Rescue??

I posted this originall on Reptile Haven, but thought it should be posted on other reptile information sites as well....

OK folks, I'm going to rant a little here........so if it gets long please bear with me and I do apologize but I feel it needs to be addressed


Many of us here at Reptile Haven rescue herps in addition to keeping our own collections. I, myself, just this month finally got established and ready to accept rescues. We do this to help any and all reptiles, as well as any other animals we can. We do it out of the goodness of our hearts and our love of the hobby. We do not want to see any reptile put to sleep due to the shelters and animal control agencies inability to care for exotic animals. In my area, dogs and cats are kept in the shelters longer than a many reptiles, especially the larger ones like Burmese Pythons and Iguanas. If a home isn't found within 7 days, they are put down. We have a little network set up to find good homes for many of the rescues we bring in. Many of which end up being adopted to people we know personally due to our knowing they have the experience to give the animal a good home. I just adopted 4 boas in the last week. The people I adopted them from know that I have the experience and knowledge to give them a good home for as long as they are alive.

Now onto my rant.......
I am seeing time and time again people, mainly children of 12 to 16 years old as well as other older individuals, posting on various sites that they are a rescue and will accept any reptile regardless of size and species. My problem with these "rescues" is that the people who post saying they are a rescue, are not a rescue and are not out to help the animal in question. As another member of Reptile Haven stated they are not rescues, they should just post "please give me free animals". You have to wonder where a person of this age is going to get the monies needed for a routine visit to the veterinarian that every rescue needs whether they are outwardly sickly of not. I know it cost me anywhere from $40 to $150 a visit depending on what test I have done, and can run as high as $400 for a single visit. And how many of the parents of these children are going to want to drive the animal to the vet? And pay for the final bill? Come to think of it, how many are actually going to allow a 13-year-old child to rescue a 10' Burmese Python?

Now let's get into the required supplies for a "rescue". Like cages with the proper heating, lighting, UV, etc. I know I had to wait until I was able to accumulate enough specialized bulbs and CHEs for all of the cages, before I would even consider accepting rescues. These items are expensive to say the least. And it's not like many people can afford to out and buy 15 CHEs and 10 special UV bulbs all at once. What about food?? In order to feed all of the different animals that come into rescues, you must have many different varieties of foods on hand or available at a moments notice. For snakes you need rodents, preferably frozen ones. For most small lizards, you need crickets. And iguanas, monitors, and other reptile eat a totally different variety in their diets. I can go on and on about the specialized caging and other supplies needed for each species.

Just because someone has a few extra empty cages, doesn't mean they are a rescue. It means they have a few empty cages. It takes a lot more than a few empty cages to rescue any animal, let alone reptiles. There is a difference between adoption and rescue. Rescue means most of the animals you get are in great need of rehab and/or medical care, and if someone claims to be into rescue, they had better have experience in rehab skills and access to vet care and a lot of cash flow.


I guess I have been ranting here and trying to avoid just stating the obvious. The only thing these individuals want is a free animal! There, I said it! My advice to these people is to buy your animals and stop looking for freebies. The only thing you are doing is depriving a reptile of a good home where they can get the care and attention that they require to thrive and live a long healthy life. I have 5 sons and I wouldn't even consider letting any of them owning an animal. I own all of the animals. I let them help to care for them and they learn about whatever is here at any given time, but I have found most children of early teenage years to not be able or ready to care for the types of rescues that come in. I dread seeing one of these rescues getting a Burmese Python in with a RI or an Iguana with MBD. These illnesses can rack up a hefty vet bill in a very short time and I don't see these "rescues' taking the time or investing the money into the reptile. I see them letting the animal suffer until it dies. And it really saddens me to say that, but it seems to be the truth of the matter. A few members can attest to rescuing animals from someone who stated they were a rescue, and had to take to animals from them and rehab them back to health, losing a few along the way, because the person who had them didn't have a clue as to how to rehab a sick animals and didn't have the monies needed for vet care.

Please, to all of those individuals who say they are a rescue really just want a free animal, fill out an application at a legitimate rescue's site and pay the adoption fee. All you are doing is causing more pain and suffering on animals that could have been place in proper rescues and get the care they need to regain their health. There is nothing wrong with holding out for a free pet or at least a nominal adoption fee, as long as you pass the application screening that all rescues have for potential adopters.


To all those who are looking for rescues to take their animals, sick or healthy, please do a little research into any rescue. There are many of these popup rescues that just want free animals and do not have the ability or experience needed for many of the animals that end up in rescues. Many of the reptile information sites on the Internet have pages that list rescues from all over the country so finding one that is close to you shouldn't be too hard.
 
Old 01-25-2005, 10:03 PM   #2
valarie_anne68
Thumbs up Thank you!

Good day to you, I could not have said that any better myself. I have an application in a rescue agency to adopt reptiles and also I am trying to start my own rescue in South GA. I feel that everything you say is so true. Too many people are out looking for "free pets", and they don't really know what they are getting into. Taking care of a reptile is like taking care of a child, my snakes are treated as my children. They get love and caring and taken care of when they are sick(nothing serious as of yet) and healthy.

I think it is really good that people get the opportunity to adopt sick and or needy reptiles, but on the other hand I feel we all should get screened before hand. Where I am signed up I take a test to see how much I really know about what I want to adopt. I also have to show that I know what the cost of vet bills, food, and housing will cost. I have to prove that I have someone that deals with reptiles in case mine get ill. This place don't play, you have to prove yourself first, then if you do, you may be able to help.

And the monies that are paid are really going to help the adoption agency, for the cost of providing care for pets that are mistreated or worse yet, "Thrown Away". And I hate the fact that people are doing this, why the heck do you get something if you don't know what the heck you are really dealing with. Because it is so cute? Because your friend has one and you need one? Wrong reasons! At least to me, they are.

I apologize, I am just so tired of seeing articles in the paper about pets caught in the wild that aren't supposed to be in the wild. Let's all research our wants before we get them, and consider 'their' needs, before you consider your wants. Find out if you are getting this reptile for the right reasons; "helping the reptile", or the wrong reasons; "it's free", or "it's just too cute to pass up", or "I knew someone who had one and they said it was easy to take care of". Please research; if not for you, then for the reptiles sake!

If I upset anyone with this, I apologize, and sir, I don't mean to step on your toes by writing this, as your words are.... I couldn't have said it better myself.

Thank you,
Valarie
 
Old 01-25-2005, 10:50 PM   #3
TooManyBurmese
"I know it cost me anywhere from $40 to $150 a visit depending on what test I have done"

I'd love to know who your vet is! Mine charges me $80 to walk in the door with a reptile.

As for me, I do my own thing very quietly as I get in just as many animals I can handle without "advertizing". I also have put almost $1500 into applying for my 501c3, and am waiting for that to clear before I go out asking for donations of money or supplies.

I do what I do for burmese pythons mainly because I am pretty well equipped to keep them, house them, and feed them.

I also recommend if you are going to surrender or adopt an animal, make sure they are a legitimate non-profit.
 
Old 02-03-2005, 08:29 AM   #4
Herpkingdom
$1500 to apply for your 501c???

I got mine for free! A little resaearch online and I had the forms needed. I filled them out, sent them in and recieved the 501c status in two months. Now what I have done with that is going to cost me buck that is for sure. Setting up a corporation costs money. But actually getting the 501c status at most cost me like $10. (there is the $10 figure popping up its ugly head again )

To all this who are getting the 501c status.... start a corporation. The one where it officers cannot be held liable for the business. The woirse thing to happen is for one of your adoption to harm someone, then it can come back to you and you could be held laible. If the corporation is set up correctly, only the corporation would be held liable, not its officers. I wouldn't want to see anyone lose their homes becuase someone got bit by a iguana of burmese and now wants to sure the reusce that they adopted it from.


Good Luck
 
Old 02-03-2005, 08:41 PM   #5
TooManyBurmese
I was advised to have a lawyer specializing in this sort of thing fill out the forms for me, and his fee for this was just under $1500. Now I feel like an ass. I never knew you could do it on your own!

Jim Dixon, would you mind if I PM'd you about where you found these forms to do yourself? And how you went about starting a corporation?
 
Old 02-04-2005, 01:12 PM   #6
DragonCharm
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Originally Posted by Herpkingdom
Now what I have done with that is going to cost me buck that is for sure. Setting up a corporation costs money.
Same situation, simply get the forms and fill them out yourself. Costs about $50 in my state. Here we would get the forms and submit them to the secretary of state's office, not sure what would be the deal in your state. The forms are available right on their website.
 

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