Ty park/ ty lizards FL

Originally Posted by tim brophy

David, not sure you can blame Ty Park for how his buyers feed their tegus. But I know tegus are prone to obesity in captivity. Probably cause lots of keepers do not have the resources or desire to keep them properly. I believe most serious keepers have them in escape proof outside enclosures at least part of the year. Not a casual pet. Super strong, crap a ton and sorta smelly. If I was Sugar Hedgie, I would bail on the lizard and go for the cash.

I was referring to the lizards in Mr Park's possession owned by him and fed by him. They're all morbidly obese IMO.

to lightly touch on Deb Morgans post, this is yet another reason why I think TY will be buried in court!! some states have a deceptive practice law as well. if TY thinks going into court and saying "well the raffle said this but in reality it meant XXXXX"....he will be seen as deceptive and will lose his credibility real fast! nothing he can say in court will help him. his only hope is to accept his wrong doing and apologize and hope the judge and jury go easy on him. from what I gather (which is limited) consumers are protected more so than a business when it comes to deceptive practices.

David, I know. It also appears obese to me. But he breeds them successfully, so presumably his husbandry is accurate. The ones I have seen in zoos are immense. They love to eat and will eat anything. Rodents and birds are a staple. That is why Michelle needs to be careful letting her future tegu get too close to a sugar glider...

Originally Posted by tim brophy

Note to Sugar Glider. If you ever actually get a tegu out of this ordeal (and I hope you do), do not let it get near one of your sugar gliders! Those things look like they could eat a whole refrigerator full of chicken!

No need to worry about any of my animals mr Broohy.
My gliders are all fed well balanced diets and so were my 4 tegus when we had them.
All were/are appropriate weights, except one fat tegu we rescued from a bad situation. He was neglected and being fed dog food and rat pups

The mosaic glider has a paralyzed left arm (why it looks like that in the pic).
She had broken it about 5 years ago and after many vet visits they were able to set and cast it.

Originally Posted by tim brophy

David, I know. It also appears obese to me. But he breeds them successfully, so presumably his husbandry is accurate. The ones I have seen in zoos are immense. They love to eat and will eat anything. Rodents and birds are a staple. That is why Michelle needs to be careful letting her future tegu get too close to a sugar glider...

No need to worry.....
I am a very experienced reptile , tegu and exotic animal owner/breeder

Michelle,
That is cool. Congrats. That is some good and admirable work. Also, I got corrected. Sugar gliders are not rodents. They are marsupials.
Frankly, I hope it all works out for you. One last point, I would never want to face you in court. Tenacious does not begin to cover your persistence.

Originally Posted by Sugarhedgie

Update
I just got notice that ty has hired an attorney!!
The 25th has been cancelled.

Is it the same attorney who posted earlier in this thread claiming to represent Ty Park? Seems odd that you say he just hired an attorney at this late point if it is not the same person.

Originally Posted by FresnoTortoise

This is going to be trial of the century for reptile people. Wooohoo, go Jury Trial!

So, do you believe that if Goliath had defeated David, the history books would have looked favorably upon Goliath?

Yeah, a lot of people will be watching this spectacle, and how Ty Park has treated someone like Michelle Cutler.

Originally Posted by tegusaurus

Is it the same attorney who posted earlier in this thread claiming to represent Ty Park? Seems odd that you say he just hired an attorney at this late point if it is not the same person.

Lol
No this is a licensed attorney in FL
maybe he didn't feel the "other" one (in post ? 418 was doing a good enough job.

Originally Posted by Sugarhedgie

ill answer this...........

"because he can"

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/...0849.0935.html

Now this is some interesting reading right there. If you haven't allready, I think everyone needs to read that linked page. It shows Florida state law concerning games of chance, which includes raffles. Ty Park has admitted to running the raffle a few times, and since he has a lawsuit under the jurisdiction of Florida, then it seems he wants to use Florida as the home base for all legal considerations. Fine. But the blade cuts both ways.

Ty Park is liable to Florida law for running a raffle there. Read the law. Is Ty Park a legitimate tax exempt organization? If not, that is a violation of state law. Did the raffle require payment for tickets? If yes, that is a violation of state law. Was an entrant for the raffle arbitrarily discriminated against? If yes, then that is a violation of state law. Were all prizes awarded to all winners? If no, then that was a violation of state law.

Too many strikes to count, you are out of here, Ty Park!

Most of the above are considered to be "deceptive and unfair trade practices" under Florida law. But read the law for yourself. Right from the horse's mouth, so to speak.

Is the attorney for Ty Park going into this completely blind? Any ethical attorney wouldn't touch this for anything. They would be defending an admitted criminal in a civil case that sued someone for pointing out their criminal acts, saying it hurt their reputation.

Lord have mercy.