Alyy White Spindown Reptiles

While it appears that a lot of the responses are friends of the seller, I am astounded that people seem 100% on her side. If someone offers to sell me an animal for $650 and I accept that offer, I have a binding agreement, and should get that animal unless I fail to pay in a reasonable time. Although it would be nice to see the emails.

Originally Posted by Lloyd Heilbrunn

While it appears that a lot of the responses are friends of the seller, I am astounded that people seem 100% on her side. If someone offers to sell me an animal for $650 and I accept that offer, I have a binding agreement, and should get that animal unless I fail to pay in a reasonable time. Although it would be nice to see the emails.

Where in the messages do you see that she "accepted" the offer. I see where she said, "let's talk over the phone."

I will reiterate, since it seems to have been missed the first time - Alyy and I were not friends prior to this. Even then, I would say acquaintance, since we have not spoken until now.

I agree, there was no acceptance here. Most advertisements are invitations for offers, you do not complete the offer/acceptance process merely by saying you want the item.

After reading the messages I can see how the op thought they had a deal. I would have been upset too. If you offer to pay the asking price and the seller tells you they'll let you know when they get shipping supplies what would you think?

Bobby there's still a lot of negotiating to do. Investigation of probable homes...they hadn't even gotten to inquiring about the other on other boards or asking about husbandry yet. Deals like this for such nice northerns (and sexed northerns to boot) take a few days to set up. During that time the seller is allowed to have as many deals doing on as they please, and make the right decision for the animals when the time comes to extend a paypal address.

Originally Posted by CMReptiles

Bobby there's still a lot of negotiating to do. Investigation of probable homes...they hadn't even gotten to inquiring about the other on other boards or asking about husbandry yet. Deals like this for such nice northerns (and sexed northerns to boot) take a few days to set up. During that time the seller is allowed to have as many deals doing on as they please, and make the right decision for the animals when the time comes to extend a paypal address.

You're clearly biased here. If I agree to pay the asking price I don't expect there to be any more negotiating. I'm not saying the seller had to sell to the op but I can easily see how the op thought they had a deal. You're looking as bad as anyone here with your one-sided cheerleading.

Originally Posted by Bobby Douglass

You're clearly biased here. If I agree to pay the asking price I don't expect there to be any more negotiating. I'm not saying the seller had to sell to the op but I can easily see how the op thought they had a deal. You're looking as bad as anyone here with your one-sided cheerleading.

What if several people agree to pay the asking price? What if none of them expect there to be any more negotiating? How are someone's thoughts someone else's responsibility?

Originally Posted by Bobby Douglass

If I agree to pay the asking price I don't expect there to be any more negotiating.

Originally Posted by Lucille

I agree, there was no acceptance here. Most advertisements are invitations for offers, you do not complete the offer/acceptance process merely by saying you want the item.

The asking price in most ads is an invitation for an offer, not the offer itself, except in very specific circumstances. Further, there are always further details such as shipping.

Originally Posted by Lucille

The asking price in most ads is an invitation for an offer, not the offer itself, except in very specific circumstances. Further, there are always further details such as shipping.

So if someone says the price is $650 it doesn't really mean the price is $650? Where did you come up with that? I'm not saying the op is a "bad guy" but if you can't see how the op thought he was buying the lizards and was then disappointed when he found out that he wasn't then I don't know what else to say. He reacted poorly and understands that now.

Originally Posted by kmrkvicka

Where in the messages do you see that she "accepted" the offer. I see where she said, "let's talk over the phone."

Originally Posted by Lucille

I agree, there was no acceptance here. Most advertisements are invitations for offers, you do not complete the offer/acceptance process merely by saying you want the item.

I see the below as accepting an offer to sell at $650 with a discussion pending on how to pay ie Paypal or credit card or check or MO.

Originally Posted by Tballs

I contacted Spindown reptiles about a pair of Northern Blue tongues. I asked her what was the price for the pair? She said " $650 plus shipping" several emails passed, I said I would take them! I wanted to speak over the phone before payment, She said " I'll call tonight" After several hours passed the time she said she would call, she said "I'll call tomorrow". I agreed, then 10 mins. Later I received an email saying she had another offer!