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Old 03-29-2010, 01:42 AM   #81
MEIER21288
"For starters, if im not here to reply to you 4 seconds after you inquired, I apologize, I some of us have LIVES outside of Fauna."

You make a comment like that and yes, i will take the 2 minutes to just fact check and see the time frame that all these posts were made.

Now concerning your emails.

Email dated January 25th
[b]"looking to find out about getting the remainder sent to you, if you were prepared to ship the animal at this time."B]

Looks like you wanted that snake shipped even though it was january,

Email dated January 29th
so eventually, the snake did breathe, and eventually did recover.
So it is alive.

Email dated Febuary 22nd---about a month after recieving it
[b]hes gained some weight, hes now at 132g's/B]
he doesnt explore his surroundings, and hes not seeking to escape the container that hes end. He shows no interest in getting loose, like a normal snake would.
So hes still alive & gained weight
I have many snakes that dont "seek to escape or show interest in getting loose"

Email from fred dated Febuary 22
on my original paper work from our conversation, you gave me an address with no apartment number. We do not guarantee shipping on orders that are miss handled by the carrier.
Same exact guarentee that every other breeder & dealer go by.

Email dated March 18th-2 months after it arived and has survived up till this point.
you sent me a snake in 16 degree weather.
Remember when on January 25th you asked if he would ship it....did you not walk outside? You knew even better than him what the temp was like where you live.

If you chose not to make this right, Ive made enough contacts, and I know people, that know people, I will make it public knowledge what has transpired.
Im sure he is running scared now,

If I have to keep the animal on ice, and carry it around to EVERY snake show I can get to. I will make it known that you sold me faulty merchandise.
Yes, yes, im the stalker???
 
Old 03-29-2010, 02:16 AM   #82
StrictlyExotics
Can you NOt just copy and paste the full emails in here. Cutting out parts just leaves an opening for deniability
 
Old 03-29-2010, 03:33 AM   #83
SamanthaJane13
Here are links to a seizure by the Erie County SPCA regarding Pets Plus-the store owned by Fred Kick-this seizure happened in 2006.

http://www.yourspca.org/site/News2?p...rticle&id=5797

http://www.yourspca.org/site/News2?p...rticle&id=5813

http://www.yourspca.org/site/News2?p...rticle&id=5851

And one from PETA-

http://www.peta.org/MC/NewsItem.asp?id=8829

I personally know one of the people who was called in to help the DEC & SPCA evaluate the animals, instruct the care-givers about their care, and help set up enclosures for them.

Unfortunately, he's no longer in the area, so I don't know how to get a hold of him to have him come here to speak up himself.

I can only provide the links.

I haven't been in the shop myself in over 6 or more years, and I wasn't impressed then, but knowing that this went on-even 4 years ago, NOTHING would surprise me about the animals this guy sells.
 
Old 03-29-2010, 03:42 AM   #84
SamanthaJane13
Ooops-forgot to add my name.


Donna Moorhouse
 
Old 03-29-2010, 04:19 AM   #85
StrictlyExotics
Donna you dont have to sign your name if its correct in your sidebar :P
 
Old 03-29-2010, 04:38 PM   #86
SamanthaJane13
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Donna you dont have to sign your name if its correct in your sidebar :P
Thanks, Dean.

I used to have my name in my sig, but recently changed it, and my name made the sig too long.

I just didn't want to get spanked.



Donna Moorhouse
 
Old 03-29-2010, 07:32 PM   #87
chongorojo
I always thought fred kicks hypo mojaves and pastaves looked super thin but I guess that's why I never inquired about them...

I don't agree with the poster complaining about the pastel yellowbelly though, what do you expect when you ask for your animal to be shipped in the dead of winter? And yes I agree that the seller should have refused to ship the animal but from all I've read I looks like he is in it just for the money. But that is JMO..
 
Old 03-30-2010, 02:37 AM   #88
Sean90
I would have to agree with Howard on this one, I have heard a lot of non-sense about the kick brothers but I have talked to Fred alot about animals that I have wanted and he always tells me, that he will work with on a payment plan for as long as I need, as long as I am consitint on the payments (i dont know if this is sign of hope on me gettin in to doing what I love or a sign of danger) im really tounge tied here folks, Im a newbie in the snake biz just trying to sort stuff out, (good guys from bad guys) im very glad the BOI stayed

Howard im very sorry to hear of this. If all this is true, then it looks like you got scammed big time, How many more Bad BOI threads are on the KICK Brothers
 
Old 03-30-2010, 02:41 AM   #89
Sean90
Sry everyone wrong post LOL
 
Old 03-30-2010, 08:57 AM   #90
snakemansnakes
Quote:
Originally Posted by SamanthaJane13 View Post
Here are links to a seizure by the Erie County SPCA regarding Pets Plus-the store owned by Fred Kick-this seizure happened in 2006.

http://www.yourspca.org/site/News2?p...rticle&id=5797

http://www.yourspca.org/site/News2?p...rticle&id=5813

http://www.yourspca.org/site/News2?p...rticle&id=5851

And one from PETA-

http://www.peta.org/MC/NewsItem.asp?id=8829

I personally know one of the people who was called in to help the DEC & SPCA evaluate the animals, instruct the care-givers about their care, and help set up enclosures for them.

Unfortunately, he's no longer in the area, so I don't know how to get a hold of him to have him come here to speak up himself.

I can only provide the links.

I haven't been in the shop myself in over 6 or more years, and I wasn't impressed then, but knowing that this went on-even 4 years ago, NOTHING would surprise me about the animals this guy sells.
Believe me donna you are not missing anything. The last time I went in there Iwent back to the "reptile room" I had to pull an employee over and show at least 3 different cages with a deceased animal in it. Truly disturbing. I'm amazed that he is even still operating this @#%$- hole
 

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