Jay Eaton of Exotic Jungle

ya, I would haft to agree with that jerry. When you purchase at a reptile show all sales final. I like deli cups becuse they are easy to count. I still hope mike gets a email from jay.

alex

I gotta say, bagging up 10 (or 8) snakes together sounds like a cruddy way to sell them... the seller could also have avoided this by bagging or cupping them individually, then the buyer wouldn't have to figure out how the heck to count 10 snakes that are all together...

Originally Posted by KNOBTAIL

But its also your obligation to know that the amount is correct when dealing in person. This would include insuring that the animals chosen have been met to your satisfaction..

What I find somewhat sarcastic "he had a problem counting to ten" really should be left out of this equation.. It gives the impression that Jay purposely short changed you...........I doubt that to be the case ...

Consider yourself fortunate, because under normal circumstances, once you pay and the sale is consummated, there is no obligation on the sellers part to make good a claim of not receiving what you paid for............... You are not a potted plant...

Look at the merchandize, make sure the count is correct , and dont take what you feel may not be worthy to your collection.... I dont know if Jay is away, or he changed his mind about servicing you, but if you have the ability to buy where you can actually see what you are buying, be a bit more cautious in your own counting habits....................JERRY

I had purchased them Sunday AM of the show and had to return to the tables I was helping to work and we packed and drove home imediatly after the sale.
As for my sarcasim it is deliberate!
I watched Jay bag up 28 mexican blacks just prior to my purchase with out a problem.
I was talking and looking at other items at Jay's display and he verbaly counted out the ten snakes.
Were he missed the 2 I'm not sure but 10 is less than 28 and I assumed he could count that high.
Granted he was sexing a few snakes while he was counting so I at first believed he had just miscounted the number of animals but after the way he avoids calls and doesn't respond to the $ request he asked me to send him I believe he intentionaly shorted me.
I regret not counting them out again there but it's hard to pull 10 rainbows from 1 bag with newspaper in it and count them on top of a display case.
I took him for a decent guy and that is my mistake.

Originally Posted by damian47

I took him for a decent guy and that is my mistake.

A mistake many of us have made with other people over the years I'm sure.

Hope it works out for you...

This post was started two days ago and we have yet to see any of the e-mails.

Like I said he never responded or sent an email.
I didn't save an email from me sent to him saying please call me or send the payment so we can get this settled.
I sent 3 reminders through paypal to his email for the payment, as he had requested me to do.

Originally Posted by damian47

Like I said he never responded or sent an email.
I didn't save an email from me sent to him saying please call me or send the payment so we can get this settled.
I sent 3 reminders through paypal to his email for the payment, as he had requested me to do.

Ever try calling from a friends phone, screening calls maybe?

Originally Posted by Kingetula

Ever try calling from a friends phone, screening calls maybe?

#67 then the number

I had purchased them Sunday AM of the show and had to return to the tables I was helping to work and we packed and drove home imediatly after the sale.

Again I will ask ... what exactly was the time frame from the time of possession until you returned from Daytona to Iowa and actually opened the bag? That's quite a distance to drive!

I regret not counting them out again there but it's hard to pull 10 rainbows from 1 bag with newspaper in it and count them on top of a display case

Perhaps in the future when you are at a large reptile expo like Daytona, you might consider taking multiple specimens out of one bag and counting out into another bag or an empty tank. Generally it shouldn't be too difficult to find a temporary extra bag or tank for that purpose ... and even beneficial to actually look over the stock you just purchased.

Hey,
We have all made counting errors in the past, in snake deals and outside of snake deals

If you stood there while he counted to 10, why didn't you catch the error? If you were talking to him, and having him sex stuff too, why didn't to re-check the count at the end.

If it was me and you stood there while I counted out the animals and after the show you called and questioned it I would automatically think you were trying to scam me out of more animals, or to replace some you lost in transit, or cooked in transit.

Even if Jay did miscount, you were supervising it supposedly, so you are also to blame.


my $.02

Ben Cole