The spotted was sold but the guy backed out, great breeder, nice spots, looks great, and the sulcata is 10.5" across the bottom, appears to be female, not 100% sure, not concave, can send pics for you to look at. The sulcata is $300 + shipping and the spotted is $150 + shipping, take them both and I will pay shipping, I will do trades, looking for baby red-foots/yellow-foots, Russian groups, Greek groups, Box turtle groups, groups of anything turtle/tortoise, and will trade some for a star tortoise, if you want to do a trade email me right away, i am leaving for two weeks starting on sunday (8th), we can both ship at the same time, would like to move these before i go! let me know
Andy
RedoFootMan@yahoo.com