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Old 04-26-2005, 03:30 PM   #1
HerpVenue
Neil Gubitz People don't usually pay for an empty box (Take care of this)

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Well I cant tell you who to sell you animals to, but i strongly advise not buying from him.


I contacted him about 2 animals (female Burms)
He stated the two animals were still in stock and that they were healthy and that one may bea ble to breed this winter. The other would need an additional year. I checked the BOI and saw mixed reviews and they were a good price so I decided to buy them. Anyways I called UPS and they said that they could hold the box there and i would be able to pick it up there with a tracking number. Something got screwed up and it was delived to my house anyways. I got home from work for lunch and noticed that the box was rater small to hold 2 burms one big enough to breed this fall (neil stated lager than a coke can arround) and a second animal. Then i picked up the box and knew right away it was empty. I opened the box and sure enough empty no bags that the snakes could have escaped from or packaging nothing. I immeditaly called him and told him the issue. Neil stated that he had placed the animals in the box and that he had all of his UPS lables preprinted for 1 pound and that it would be reweighed at the UPS facility and it would show that he shipped the animals. (ok whatever) He then accused me of trying to screw him over saying that he didnt ship the animals and that I was trying to get free animals. Anyways he has been nothing but a dick to me lately see the latest ill forward those next. I put a claim in with UPS and Discover UPS will not do anything because on there live animals section ALL snakes are prohibited. We will see what discover says.
To think......
I just moved and missed seeing this shipment myself by just a couple of days.
To think......these animals were being bought basically because of me.
To think.....he usually opens up his shipments in front of me.....how I wish I could have been there to see this empty box for myself.....that way I can TOTALLY fry someone.

p.s. I do not know much about snakes..... but in my world...... a burm that is larger than a coke can around is not ready to be bred. perhaps if it was as large or larger than a coke bottle.....then definately.

pps. buy a scale..... that way you do not run the risk of having them reweighed and possibly searched.

ppps. If they got searched..... then yeah the boxes woiuld be shipped without snakes.

ppppss And if they were shipped without any snakes..... and you thought you could just take some nobody along for a ride.... you got another thing coming. Because I am scheduled to go back to Maryland to take care of business in a couple of months. Guess whos house I will be staying at? Guess whos snakes I will be checking out? So yeah I will witness this first hand.
 
Old 04-26-2005, 03:47 PM   #2
robin d.
:: sniff sniff :: ritchie you da man BABY!!!
 
Old 04-26-2005, 03:47 PM   #3
HerpVenue
Quote:
Well I cant tell you who to sell you animals to, but i strongly advise not buying from him.


I contacted him about 2 animals (female Burms)
He stated the two animals were still in stock and that they were healthy and that one may bea ble to breed this winter. The other would need an additional year. I checked the BOI and saw mixed reviews and they were a good price so I decided to buy them. Anyways I called UPS and they said that they could hold the box there and i would be able to pick it up there with a tracking number. Something got screwed up and it was delived to my house anyways. I got home from work for lunch and noticed that the box was rater small to hold 2 burms one big enough to breed this fall (neil stated lager than a coke can arround) and a second animal. Then i picked up the box and knew right away it was empty. I opened the box and sure enough empty no bags that the snakes could have escaped from or packaging nothing. I immeditaly called him and told him the issue. Neil stated that he had placed the animals in the box and that he had all of his UPS lables preprinted for 1 pound and that it would be reweighed at the UPS facility and it would show that he shipped the animals. (ok whatever) He then accused me of trying to screw him over saying that he didnt ship the animals and that I was trying to get free animals. Anyways he has been nothing but a dick to me lately see the latest ill forward those next. I put a claim in with UPS and Discover UPS will not do anything because on there live animals section ALL snakes are prohibited. We will see what discover says.


Brian



Brian Bode
BodeBoa
http://www.Bodeboa.com
had to redo the quote.....
did not want anyone thinking it was some made up anonymous party
 
Old 04-26-2005, 04:39 PM   #4
Neil Gubitz
What a crock of crap.... The two burms I sold him were an Albino 04 and an Albino Green 05, how the hell can either of them be "coke bottle" size, when there was a picture of both of them in the ad (there is still a picture of them on my Sold section of my site), go look for yourself.... if you go to my, "Animals Sold Since 03/01/02" section of my website, they are there plain as day.... I have PROOF from UPS that the package weighed 3.9 pounds when it left my house, they were both in a NEW 12x12x7 styrofoam-lined box from Superior Enterprises, and when it was delivered, there was nothing in the box (or so he says).... He was not there to accept delivery and the box sat on his doorstep for an hour before he got it.... it was already investigated by UPS who determined that Brian was lying, and now he put a chargeback on his Discover Card which I just responded to today with all my PROOF.... he will NOT get his money back from me because I did everything I was supposed to do.... I have NEVER shipped ANYBODY an empty box.... that's ridiculous!!.... Someone in HIS neck of the woods has some very nice BABY Burms now....

Neil
 
Old 04-26-2005, 04:41 PM   #5
The Constrictor Zone
Can I please ask a question ?

Is this something from a past thread ? What all parties are invloved. Neil could you please respond. Im just trying to figure out what this is about. Mr Luna could you please leave mor details.

Daniel Haney
 
Old 04-26-2005, 04:43 PM   #6
The Constrictor Zone
Neil you beat

me to it Sorry.
 
Old 04-26-2005, 04:48 PM   #7
Neil Gubitz
Very easy.... the burms were shipped on 4/13, and he "received" them on 4/14.... that's when all the "fun" started.... I have just taken a picture (which I will post in a second) of the UPS bill where it PLAINLY states that the box (which is only 12x7x6) weighed 3.9 pounds when it was weighed at the UPS terminal before it was actually put on the plane, but well AFTER it left my house!!
 
Old 04-26-2005, 04:51 PM   #8
The Constrictor Zone
Thanks

Neil post the pic that should defiantly clear this up. I know an empty box doesnt weigh almost 4 pounds.
 
Old 04-26-2005, 04:54 PM   #9
Neil Gubitz
here's the photo, which I obviously had to enlarge so you can see the type....
this kid is full of it!!
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Old 04-26-2005, 04:57 PM   #10
Neil Gubitz
All my airbills are pre-printed with the weight as 1 pound.... that's why UPS ALWAYS re-weighs my boxes to get the actual weight.... so the top number is what my airbill says, and the bottom number is what the box actually weighed at time of shipping....

Again.... BRIAN BODE IS A LIAR!!
 

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