Scammed by Andrew Michael Popp Las Vegas, NV

Andrew, would you agree that your "approximate" sizes were not even close?

Originally Posted by Big Time Reptiles

Bryan,
There's always 3 sides to every story, there's his side, then there's the other guy's side, then there's the TRUTH.

Not that it matters, I'll wait the outcome of what I've read in this thread. Both parties suing each other to no end, I'm quite sure the winner of this battle, will post their winnings here.

Lynn Peterson
Big Time Reptiles

That's assuming that every story does not have someone 100% in the right.

I agree, this is something that won't likely go away for some time.

Andrew, could you please respond to post #23?

Originally Posted by Bobby Douglass

Andrew, would you agree that your "approximate" sizes were not even close?

Thank You for bringing that up, Bobby. First it is important to note that Chris Davis used the smallest turtle in most of his examples and fake redirect. That being said prior to the sale, over the phone I told Chris that I was not aware of the industry standard for measuring turtles, as I am a Snake and Monitor breeder primarily. He had every opportunity to ask me to measure them any way he wanted prior to making his decision. I sent him additional pictures that he didn't mention as well. After he received them he used the industry standard (I assume) to measure them and accepted them in writing for the size they were. Making size from then on a mute point. I hope in reading the text that I provide, you will come to the same conclusion as I see it.

Thank You
Andrew

Originally Posted by Chris Kennard

Andrew, could you please respond to post #23?

Chris, post #23 is a full page post, mostly of Chris Davis' now completely proven lies. The rest looks to be belligerent banter about his intentions of action based on the lies he has created. I didn't see anything specific that I haven't addressed. Maybe you can post and excerpt.

Thank You

Originally Posted by Apopp1989

Thank You for bringing that up, Bobby. First it is important to note that Chris Davis used the smallest turtle in most of his examples and fake redirect. That being said prior to the sale, over the phone I told Chris that I was not aware of the industry standard for measuring turtles, as I am a Snake and Monitor breeder primarily. He had every opportunity to ask me to measure them any way he wanted prior to making his decision. I sent him additional pictures that he didn't mention as well. After he received them he used the industry standard (I assume) to measure them and accepted them in writing for the size they were. Making size from then on a mute point. I hope in reading the text that I provide, you will come to the same conclusion as I see it.

Thank You
Andrew

The turtles in post #26 are certainly 3 different turtles. Are those not the turtles you sent?

Do you have the proof in writing that he accepted them for the size that they were?

Thank you for taking the time to answer.

Originally Posted by Apopp1989

Chris, post #23 is a full page post, mostly of Chris Davis' now completely proven lies. The rest looks to be belligerent banter about his intentions of action based on the lies he has created. I didn't see anything specific that I haven't addressed. Maybe you can post and excerpt.

Thank You

Proven? Lets narrow it down, shall we? How much are three non breeder size turtles worth?

Originally Posted by Bobby Douglass

The turtles in post #26 are certainly 3 different turtles. Are those not the turtles you sent?

Do you have the proof in writing that he accepted them for the size that they were?

Thank you for taking the time to answer.

Yes Bobby they are in the post you just sent, all 3 of them, and yes I do have his acceptance in writing as I have stated. In post #125 bottom left pic. you will read his declaration of acceptance. This is a text that if read carefully establishes both that he has received the turtles and that he accepts them. As I have stated, from that point on, the size of the turtles is a mute point. Don't you agree?

Thank You

Originally Posted by Chris Kennard

Proven? Lets narrow it down, shall we? How much are three non breeder size turtles worth?

Thank you for asking Chris.
the answer is:

More than the price I sold them to him for, but remember they are het for Snow and Caramel.

This is undoubtedly the reason why Chris Davis accepted them.

No harm no foul. Hmmmm.