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11-20-2002, 05:01 PM
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more Paypal abuse by For Ever Yours Reptiles
Ran across this ad on KS. I really liked the animals, they were very nice and I was going to wait and see her reactions before venturing into possibly buying one of them. Simply looking to see what her business ethics were and are. That tells a lot about sellers. IMO
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CBB '01 Amazon Tree Boas
NATIONWIDE SHIPPING!
Posted by Forever Yours Reptiles (Contact Me!) on November 19, 2002 at 18:18:14
Click on thumbnails to view fullsize in a new window
Garden Phase $85 Each, Colored $125 Each
Shipping $25
Methods of payment - Money Orders, Cashier's Check and PayPal. Please add 3% Paypal when if using Paypal. Shipping via Airborne.
No discounts on multiple purchases (Price remains the same no matter how many you buy). No trades. Thank you.
http://www.foreveryoursreptiles.com
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So I emailed her letting her know about her flagrant violation of the TOS of Paypal. Simple, short, sweet and to the point.
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To: bree8x2@foreveryoursreptiles.com
Subject: Message about: CBB \\\'01 Amazon Tree Boas
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 18:41:23 -0600 (CST)
Adding 3% for paypal is a violation of the Terms Of Service in which you agreed to when you signed up for Paypal. You should read how many folks wont buy from sellers for this very reason. Do a search on the BOI at faunaclassifieds.com and see what kind of state laws and regulations you are violating.
Nice animals by the way.
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So she emails me back this email.
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From: bree8x2@foreveryoursreptiles.com
Is this something you do to everyone who advertises on Kingsnake? I have never had a problem before and I see no problems now. I have been advertising on Kingsnake for a year now and had no issues before.
Thanks for your advice.
Bree
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So to help her understand where we the customers come from and what we think I sent her these links to show her. In hopes that she would see what she is doing is wrong, possibly illegal in some states and unethical.
Her final email to me was this one. So I guess I wont be asking about buying any of the nice animals she has for sale.
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From: "Forever Yours Reptiles" <bree8x2@hotmail.com>
Thanks for the info, I will go ahead and raise my prices to cover the fee or I can word it as a paypal handling fee. I read that in the Paypal TOS. But I notice that only the people interested in my animals that want me to lower my prices complain about something.
Thanks again....There is no need for you to contact me again. I do not wish to have any more contact with you.
You said what you needed to say and I am sure if anyone "reports" me it will be you cause apparently you have nothing better to do than police people's ad's.
Bree
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Here is yet another one to add to my list of "who not to buy from."
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11-20-2002, 06:18 PM
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Well, there maybe hope after all.
She took down the other ad and replaced it with this one. Notice the absence of the Paypal 3% fee.
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CBB Amazon Tree Boa Yearlings!!
NATIONWIDE SHIPPING!
Posted by Forever Yours Reptiles (Contact Me!) on November 20, 2002 at 06:04:15
Click on thumbnails to view fullsize in a new window
Garden Phase $90 Each, Colored $130 Each
Shipping $25 through Airborne
Methods of payment - Money Orders, Cashier's Check and PayPal.
No discounts on multiple purchases (Price remains the same no matter how many you buy). No trades. Thank you.
http://www.foreveryoursreptiles.com
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11-20-2002, 07:34 PM
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she still upped the price a whole big $5 
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11-20-2002, 10:59 PM
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I have come accross a few animals in the last few weeks, that if not for this paypal add 3% b.s. I would have bought them. I was happy with the asking price, and the looks of the snakes, but in no way will I knowingly pay them an extra 3%. I dont even buy from sellers who charge extra for heat packs and such. As a consumer, I want a price to include everything, (shipping, insulation, heat/cool packs, etc.....) This is just my own opinion, but I think its a joke to soak people for the 3%
1 animal= 1 price... thats it
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11-20-2002, 11:29 PM
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You would think that people wouldn't penalize their customers for paying via a quick and easy method. Oh well.
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11-20-2002, 11:55 PM
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My thoughts exactly Ken.
I love Paypal, mostly because it is instant. I like things done right away, less time to wait for the new arrival. And there is always at least 2 saved records of the transaction.
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11-21-2002, 10:32 AM
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Which animal would I buy?
Animal A: 100 + 3% for paypal
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Animal B: 110
I would buy animal B. Yes I know A is cheaper........But
personal preference i guess.
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11-21-2002, 10:41 AM
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Same here. I know we can all do the math in our heads, but I too would be alot more interested in B
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