mystic herps deal!!

Well I aranged a trade with mike roe of mystic herps for a 10 lot of beardies a brazilian rainbow boa and a crested gecko for 2.2 group of het boas..

After about a week or so of who will ship first i decided i would give him a chance to make a good deal to try and make up for some of his last, i even said i'd report on here that we had a good deal.. well

he rushed me to have the shipment to him by fri of last week, and he said he'd also ship asap which he did not.. he should of shipped on fri for sat and then did not.. so i simply told him "lets get it together" and that i had every intention to go to iowa and pick up my original herps and make a report with all of the necassary people.. he told me not to over react he'd made a simple mistake (like it was his first time not shipping).. and he'd ship after lunch on mon..
thats when he later recontacts me to let me know he shipped and gave me a tracking number..

I thought for sure it was a fake, but no i did get a shipment this morning, of my boas.. they were porely packaged and just thrown in the box.. all were cold and stresses, now the thing is I am wondering if these are even my boas.. these seem smaller and darker than the stock we sent out.. so he either decided against ripping me off to avoid more problems or he did get over on me and i don't even know it yet!!!

At any rate at least i ended up with something unlike some of you.. if you r thinking of giving this guy a second chance don't he's had more times than one to change and has not yet..

I will Bet $$$$$ that those boas are only Het for LAME!!!!! What address did you ship too


Alfredo Veloso

The boas that i shipped out were 50 %pos hets.. he never shipped the beardeds and things to me, i shipped to 3156 68th street urvandale iowa. m.roe signed for the boas

Did you have pictures of the Boas before you sent them? If you do I would compare the pictures to the animals you received back from him. The animals shipped back could very well be different animals than what you shipped and photo documentation is the only way you can prove it.

Originally posted by Edward
I thought for sure it was a fake, but no i did get a shipment this morning, of my boas.. they were porely packaged and just thrown in the box.. all were cold and stresses, now the thing is I am wondering if these are even my boas.. these seem smaller and darker than the stock we sent out.. so he either decided against ripping me off to avoid more problems or he did get over on me and i don't even know it yet!!!

Are these the boas in question?

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...threadid=37285

If they are the returned boas why would you post them for sale 8 min after this post if you were not sure they are the 50% hets you had sent out?

The way Mike Roe does business is to scam you, hang on to your money or critters, then only return them when you turn the heat on him. And he only returns when he has had a chance to scam someone else to get the money he returns to you. My guess is that those are someone else's snakes he scammed...

He finally sent my refund and I received it today. He had said he would refund the money and my cost to overnight it but he only refunded the cashier's check amount. I cashed the money order he sent, we'll see if it is real or not.

Mike's original company name was Animal Island. Mystic Herps is a real company but with Matt out of Montanta (or another M state can't remember) who has no association with Mike and his partner in crime wife, Mandi Roe. Mike also tried to do business as Capital City. Be wary of anyone doing business out of Iowa that only takes money orders or cashiers checks(his paypal was shut down because of all the scamming).

Good luck!

I did not take pics and that was the main reason i agreed to ship 1st, upon arrival of the snakes they were real stressed and dark and I can't be sure if there the same ones or not. I posted them for sale again as they originally were. with plans of explaining all of the details to future buyers as they inquire further.. and also priced them at 75 ea which is around the price of a normal. the original deal with mr roe i was asking 100 ea in cash or trade value.. at any rate u r correct there is no proof that he sent back diffrent snakes it was just a possibility.. i will exam the snakes further in a day or so (when they stresslevel drops) and compare them to the stock in which i kept back.. thanks and again i apologize for any confusion..

Shannan,

Thanks for clarifying that for them, for me !!

I am in Southern Missouri (nixa to be exact) and in no way associated with The Mystic Herps in Iowa.

I noticed that alfonso from extreme reptiles if i am not mistaken has posted here as well. I have purchased animals from him years ago for resale actually.

I just hate seeing the name Mystic Herps being slammed, even if its not MY Mystic Herps.

I have not done any serious business for several years ( since i bought a mortage actually) but do plan on running with it in the future as my breeders come of age.

The actual name of my business as far as the state of Missouri is concerned is Mystic Herpetological "Mystic Herps " for short.

All in all i think i saw this Mike at a reptile show in Kansas City, or St Louis. One of those shows about a year ago. I mentioned it to my friend that was with me that he was using the same name.

I didnt think anything of it at the time, but as it seems i should have spoken with him about it then.

If anyone can give me an E mail or business address on him, i would appreciate it, so i can see what legal rights i have against him, if any.

I dont come to this forum regularly, and have only recently been told about it because of these issues, so please E mail me directly at MysticHerps@aol.com

Thanks

Matt Loll Owner/ Operator of the REAL Mystic Herpetological Nixa, MO

I believe it was tatoo69@earthlink.net, but i have already deleted all his emails..

mike just ripped another person off for the group of Blizzards he was advertising.....You would think after getting his hand slapped he would knock it off......
If anyone lives near him go kick his a$$ please.....