Is the Fall From Grace fatal to the Good Guy Certs?

Well that certainly answers my question... finally.

Thanks-

Asked and answered. Thanks for the information.

Day late to add my thoughts~ but here they are.

I don't know about Nerd and hot snakes~ it's not the subject of this thread. There ya have it.

Clearwater reptiles

I was reluctant to add my name to the negative poll on the certification, I was'nt sure it was appropriate~ So I was unsure~ UNTIL.............

UNTIL I NOTICED HIS "REPUTATION" ON FAUNA INCREASING!!!!!!!!!!!!

When this all started two days ago Clearwater had a 90-something (I don't recall the exact number) reputation. Yesterday and today he has a 100. SOMEONE IS ADDING TO HIS REPUTATION POINTS. I know at least one person did it on accident~ but I left negative points~ so that should have countered it's self back to his original score~ NOPE~ His reputation is still 100 points. SOMEONE IS ADDING TO HIS REPUTATION.

I thought about that. I thought in a few weeks this thread will fall off the bottom of the first page. Those here NOW will know what Clearwater did~ but the new guys will come onto Fauna and see that he has a 100 reputation, and a certified "Good Guy" because he only actually STOLE from ONE customer who CAUGHT him. He's is going to make sales with that. Someone is not going to bother to look him up because obviously he is a "Good guy"~ he has a great reputation number~ and ONE piddly little negative on his "Good Guy" cert.

I don't want to be a "Good Guy" if Bill gets to be one. I don't want to be ANYTHING like that. So I voted bad guy. Give him all the anonymous positive reputation points you want. I voted BAD GUY in the forum that details what I voted~ because he is a BAD GUY and I am angry at the business and respect I WILL LOSE because he was thought of as such a "Good Guy" on the forum I have spent several YEARS building my modest but positive reputation in.

Cheryl, here is the thread to NERD freehandling venomoids at a show they had at their facility. http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...ad.php?t=70169

Rich, I'm curious, why are only paid members able to vote now? That's not how it was last night, why the change?

Originally Posted by DaveyFig

Welcome back Rich. I have a suggestion that may or may not be feasible, and I will try to communicatue it the best I can.
Is there a way to have 2 polls set up per good guy cert. applicant?
One for people who have done business with the person, and one for people who would or would not do business with a person ?

There more or less already is a system in place like you mention. The Trader Rating. That is strictly for transactions. The Good Guy Cert is for all of the others. They may not be tied together, but each individually pretty much does what you suggested.

Personally, I think deleting the now bad-guy certification takes information away from the table. It's a big difference between just not being on the list vs. being in the negative and highlighted (which I also think is a good idea, to leave no room for someone scanning and thinking the unhighlighted "bad guy's" name in the list correlates to "good guy".) The original BOI leaves it all up there, the good, the bad, and the extraneous. I would think the info that someone had lost their "good guy" status should also be left up on the BOI "lite".

Just my opinion. Carry on.

Originally Posted by sirenofthestorm

Rich, I'm curious, why are only paid members able to vote now? That's not how it was last night, why the change?

Because upon reading this thread yesterday (in between Comcast dropping out) I realized that having the voting open to members who could likely be false IDs is not in the best interests of the people participating in the BOI Good Guy Certification Program. This includes not only the people who would be the ones having the certificates, but also the people who may be inclined to use the system as a guide for who they may consider doing business with.

And yes, sometimes I do change my mind about things.

So even though I've had a business transaction with NERD, I cannot vote. Ok.

Originally Posted by WebSlave

I realized that having the voting open to members who could likely be false IDs is not in the best interests of the people participating in the BOI Good Guy Certification Program. This includes not only the people who would be the ones having the certificates, but also the people who may be inclined to use the system as a guide for who they may consider doing business with.

Agreed. Look at repti-bid and all the people there who were caught giving themselves false positive feedback... Same type of situation if you leave it open.

Originally Posted by Cheryl Marchek AKA JM

When this all started two days ago Clearwater had a 90-something (I don't recall the exact number) reputation. Yesterday and today he has a 100. SOMEONE IS ADDING TO HIS REPUTATION POINTS. I know at least one person did it on accident~ but I left negative points~ so that should have countered it's self back to his original score~ NOPE~ His reputation is still 100 points. SOMEONE IS ADDING TO HIS REPUTATION.

I've seen this mentioned in the BOI thread about Bill too, but I'm not going to put my waders on and go look for any quotes from there. I gave Bill positive rep. points for the post where he admitted to what he did. Maybe some people think that is wrong, but I interpret the feedback system as a way of evaluating posts. I wanted to give him credit for finally admitting to what he did. I thought it was a good thing to post. That's not the same as giving him a good guy vote or a positive trader rating... at least not to me.

So I'm sorry if my contributing to Bill's rep points has anyone upset, but I don't believe I was abusing the system. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and interpretations.