BEWARE! Ken, the owner of Exotic Pets LLC is not a reputable dealer!

Originally Posted by Ken Foose

Denny, I can't believe you. Who did you pay a $10 sexing fee to? Not me. Please stop making things up. This is just silly now. Now I'm wondering if you gave mites to the snakes I sent you just to blame it on me. As far as I can tell, anything with you is possible. You don't like me, fine. You won't do business with me, your choice. You think I wronged you, I understand. But please don't lie to these people about our transaction. You've said what you wanted to say. Stop making things up to pad your argument. I have all the emails you sent me, and that I sent you. Shall we compare notes?

Ken, I have all the emails too, including where you called me ignorant and mental. Compare notes anytime!!! And I did pay you to sex the snakes!

After trying for days to work with you by email and phone (and I wish I had recorded our phone conversations!!!).....I had no recourse left other than to warn others of your shoddy business practices.

It's one thing to ship snakes in a single container, another to ship with mites, and a totally other ballpark to treat a customer the way you have treated me. Your tone on the phone was completely uncalled for every time we spoke. YOu were always in a rush and too busy to give me your attention. You compared yourself to a New Car Salesman where if you get 10% of the traffic you are happy. Well, I was one of the unlucky 10%, and I'm trying my best to warn others not to be one of your future "statistics".

-Joe

Originally Posted by TakinANapster

I'll put all the emails into 1 thread and post.

You promised to do this, have I overlooked them?

Originally Posted by Lucille

You promised to do this, have I overlooked them?

This has been a great challenge since every time Ken replied he replied without history. I'm still compiling though....I will get it.

I will post the emails, and if I figure out how, attach the picture with the mites. After that, I will never post another Bad Guy post no matter how bad the experience. I will take the bad experience to my grave and let others get trapped by the same scammers.....I hate to do that, since that's what this forum is for....but it's just not worth my time and effort to "help" others when they evidentally don't appreciate it.

-Joe

Harold - I was not likening my experience to that of receiving snakes in an unmarked bag.. At all. Believe me, I understand the feelings of "pettiness" .. I think the poster is newer to the hobby and hasn't gotten "taken" badly yet, or flat out scammed.. So in his mind, what happened to him is a travesty! However - while the rest of us that have deceived dead animals, dying animals, or nothing at all for our money are going "seriously" this might be the worst thing that happened to him. Harold - believe me, you are the voice of reason in countless threads and I in no way meant my post towards your nice, courteous posts.
And shadowace - why are you bringing another BOI into this one? If your still that upset about it, contact Robyn and ask him who I'm shipping with now. I WAS FLAT OUT LIED to by a company and that's why I adamantly defended mY position adamantly. That has nothing to do w this thread. And you accusations of me being rude and so on - you should looking the mirror.

The last post has typos - I know, I'm using a touch screen wout a stylus and it's hard for me to type

Originally Posted by Ken Foose

I have all the emails, if anyone is interested. .

Ken,

Would you please post them?

First thing first.... by the way the OP is handling this situation, I would call him a bad guy.
The way Ken is handling this situation, I would call him a good guy. Starting a bad guy post against Ken for bagging two snakes together... really? I think we are still waiting for those pictures of the "mites". Where are they at? It sounds like Ken handled everything perfectly. Not everyone has the same shipping practices. Do I think it is wrong to put a pair of sexed snakes together and ship them? No. If you know how to sex snakes then it is no big deal and if you don't know then maybe you should have asked the seller to do that small favor for you. Btw, I don't know Ken and I have never done business with him but he does sound like a stand up guy. Just thought I would mention that before I am considered his best friend as well.

Originally Posted by Lucille

Ken,

Would you please post them?

If he don't post them soon, I will have them posted. Each time he replied, it waas without history....so I have to cut/paste each email together to get all the threads. I'm at work, so I can only do this at break and Lunch.

He CLAIMS there was only "1" phone call when there were many. Most of my experience was on hold, getting only seconds at a time to talk to him only to be placed on hold again and again.

And I DID inform him of the mites Saturday afternoon after I visited the Vet. He has the nerve to call me a liar when he is apparantly an out an out liar. That was when he stopped accepting my calls and refused to take the snakes back with the mites. I followed-up with an email Saturday night.

And, I will post the pic of the mites if someone will explain to me how to attach the pic in this forum.

-Joe

Originally Posted by TakinANapster

And I DID inform him of the mites Saturday afternoon after I visited the Vet. He has the nerve to call me a liar when he is apparantly an out an out liar. That was when he stopped accepting my calls and refused to take the snakes back with the mites. I followed-up with an email Saturday night.

Originally Posted by Ken Foose

I have every email but the very first ones saved, and he has never mentioned mites to me.

I want to see the follow up email mentioning mites. No backpedalling. Put it on the table now.

Originally Posted by Lucille

I want to see the follow up email mentioning mites. No backpedalling. Put it on the table now.

Hello Ken,

Again, thanks for the QUOTE!

As per our conversation, I got the snakes sexed today. At least you didn’t screw up and give me 2 of the same sex.

You did, however, give me snakes infested with mites!!! After working with you, Ken, this comes as no surprise.

I want you to pay that $40 Vet bill AND the return shipping for the snakes. Mite infested snakes WAS NOT part of the deal, as was not getting them unsexed!!! I should not be out one penny on this transaction. If you are in the hole on the deal, it’s because you sell mite infested unsexed snakes.

You are not reputable, Ken. You keep saying you have never screwed over a customer, but now that I see the quality of your merchandise….I see this is common practice at Exotic Pets LLC.

Regards,

Joe