Beware of Jerry Kruse

glad to hear it.
stu, did you have to pay for shipping the snakes back to him or was that included in the refund?
did jerry offer ANY kind of apology for this whole debaccal?
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Maybe now eveyone can back off a little.

Stu, say it ain't so!

I am glad you (sort-of) got your money back. I hope, however, that you don't forget the myriad of things Jerry's done wrong just because you got financial relief.

It's taken him nearly 4 months, he's insulted you, me, and everybody else in this thread, he's given his 'word' and broken it, he's lied, he's dodged, he's deflected..........

I'd really like to see pictures of these 'faring much better' snakes. I'd like to see/ hear more from Mjay. I'd like for him to EXPLAIN his behavior and thought processes instead of acting the way he has. Through all the left turns this thread has taken, he's never taken this seriously or offered the slightest concern for customer service.

I can't believe how 'easy' he's gotten it, so far.....

The only person Jerry should be concerned with is Stu. If Stu's satisfied with the outcome then it's over and no reason to drag all this out any longer than required.

I respectfully disagree, Steve. Future and previous customers have the right to know the status of Jerry's collection. I am suspicious about the claims made as to the health of those animals.

Originally Posted by laterob

I respectfully disagree, Steve. Future and previous customers have the right to know the status of Jerry's collection. I am suspicious about the claims made as to the health of those animals.

I have not seen these particular snakes in person. But I have seen Jerry's collection in person. That said, I would have to say that I have not seen any indication of a single unhealthy animal. Things happen and it's puzzling as to what the cause is/was. Cooler heads prevail.

If the snakes are healthy there should be no problem updating their status if Jerry has nothing to hide. In fact, I'd think he would insist on providing pictures and info to back his claims.
This is a big thread, and a tight zonata community. I think that potential customers doing a BOI search and reading the thread will have a lot to consider.

Originally Posted by Lucille

If the snakes are healthy there should be no problem updating their status if Jerry has nothing to hide. In fact, I'd think he would insist on providing pictures and info to back his claims.
This is a big thread, and a tight zonata community. I think that potential customers doing a BOI search and reading the thread will have a lot to consider.

Originally Posted by laterob

I respectfully disagree, Steve. Future and previous customers have the right to know the status of Jerry's collection. I am suspicious about the claims made as to the health of those animals.

Mitchell Mulks said "Having 'zonata disease' in your collection is something any person who's worked with zonata long enough has had to deal with."

The animals are no longer at his facility and no other snakes have shown signs. There were a couple other Z keepers that said they had animals develop it and were removed with no other animals being affected. I think anyone that wants to keep zonata should know that it is not uncommon at all. That should not be a reason to not buy Zonata from someone. Stu was refunded, what else is there to say? It wasn't done in the way/time people think it should have been done. that's just a bunch of useless opinions. There was no guarantee on the animals and he still got a refund, that says Jerry was a good guy to Stu.
I plan on getting some zonatas from a person on here that said they had ZD pop up in their collections. The "infected" animals were removed and all else is good. It is a risk that comes with the territory, Stu found that out and was refunded. Personal agendas aside, it was a good guy ending.

Originally Posted by Gerards

Mitchell Mulks said "Having 'zonata disease' in your collection is something any person who's worked with zonata long enough has had to deal with."

Stu was refunded, what else is there to say? It wasn't done in the way/time people think it should have been done. that's just a bunch of useless opinions. There was no guarantee on the animals and he still got a refund, that says Jerry was a good guy to Stu.

I plan on getting some zonatas from a person on here that said they had ZD pop up in their collections. The "infected" animals were removed and all else is good. It is a risk that comes with the territory, Stu found that out and was refunded. Personal agendas aside, it was a good guy ending.

Well said. I would only add that I've personally learned a lot about ZD during this process.

Someone said this is a good guy ending? Pleeze.... What bad crack are you people on? If Stu didn't bring Jerry onto the BOI, there's no doubt in my mind that Stu wouldn't get a cent back and Jerry would continue his way of business (Krusing people out of their $$$). A good guy ending wouldn't require 60+ pages of posts, 40k+ of views, lying, spinning the truth, name calling, etc.... It's sad to see it took this much effort to get the right thing done. It's people like Jerry Kruse that brings a black eye to the reptile community.

And God said, "Let there be zonata disease for all to ponder..."