Ripped off by Lisa Apramian in San Diego

Here are the pics from that article.
Don't know if they will be large enough but we'll see after I post them.

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BTW The captions, under those pics, stated this is Dr. Lisa Apramian.

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Originally Posted by Robert Seib

Dear Kathy,

When I submitted the mail fraud case, I was notified by the postal service that they log and track cases of fraud at certain addresses. I urge you to make a mail fraud case so that there is a visible pattern. Thank you.

robert

Robert,

I'm more than happy to, but since she didn't actually take money from me, I don't know if our non-transaction constitutes fraud.

I still don't know if she received my check, or if she shredded it. If she did receive it, and tried to cash it, I don't know if my bank would have notified me or not. I will check into that.

Kathy

In post #4, there is a reference to writing the check to 'Spiral Awakening', there are the same sorts of references to spiral awakening on this site.
http://enlightenedsexuality.com/dr-lisa-resume/
And the same phone number as a contact number on the site, as listed in post #5 here.
http://www.spiralawakening.com/contact/

Kathy, I am just finding this now. Are you kidding me??? You never had to cancel your check. I tore it up as promised. NO ONE RIPPED YOU OFF. So why are you making a big deal out of this. I gave you my word the check was tore up and you went ahead anyway and paid $28. And the snake did not have mites. I said it may be mites when we spoke by phone. I saw something in the cage and wasn't sure. We were changing out the old florescent lights and inside there, there were what we now know are moth eggs in the lighting. I was being extra cautious. Please stop acting like a victim and creating hysteria for nothing.

Lisa, where is Robert Seib's $300?

Originally Posted by spiralawakening

Kathy, I am just finding this now. Are you kidding me??? You never had to cancel your check. I tore it up as promised. NO ONE RIPPED YOU OFF. So why are you making a big deal out of this. I gave you my word the check was tore up and you went ahead anyway and paid $28. And the snake did not have mites. I said it may be mites when we spoke by phone. I saw something in the cage and wasn't sure. We were changing out the old florescent lights and inside there, there were what we now know are moth eggs in the lighting. I was being extra cautious. Please stop acting like a victim and creating hysteria for nothing.

If you can't tell the difference between moth eggs and snake mites....you need a new hobby.

Originally Posted by spiralawakening

Kathy, I am just finding this now. Are you kidding me??? You never had to cancel your check. I tore it up as promised. NO ONE RIPPED YOU OFF. So why are you making a big deal out of this. I gave you my word the check was tore up and you went ahead anyway and paid $28. And the snake did not have mites. I said it may be mites when we spoke by phone. I saw something in the cage and wasn't sure. We were changing out the old florescent lights and inside there, there were what we now know are moth eggs in the lighting. I was being extra cautious. Please stop acting like a victim and creating hysteria for nothing.

There is a text message, to Kathy, where you state that the snake had mites without recasting that info.
Honestly, if I were Kathy, I would have placed a stop payment, on the check, as well. Especially since she did not have proof that the check had been destroyed by you.

All that said, what gives you the right to keep Robert Seib's $300? Let me rephrase that, what legal right do you have to keep Robert Seib's $300?

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*recanting

Dear Rob, I have done NOTHING wrong. I asked you to be patient. There is nothing about you that is patient. You are an aggressive and inpatient man. And patient you will have to be. Period. And you are NOT being honest to these forums. First, it is not out of the ordinary to not accept paypal. Many do not.. due to problems because sellers are often victim too. Also I have bought many snakes from sellers who only accept checks. For example, Bryan Hummel, who by the way, can vouch for my character. Secondly, you neglected to tell anyone there was a death in my extended family. I flew half way around the world to say goodby to my beloved relative overseas and see and meet with family I have never met. So I have been gone for weeks. Gee do you think that was worth mentioning before you started whining to everyone?!!! Third, you demanded that the animal be mailed it out on a Thursday. You said because you were in CA, the FED EX (Mon through Wed) ship rules do not apply to you!! I have never heard of anyone caring so little for an animal's welfare that they would risk it getting stuck in a box over the weekend. You neglected to tell the forum that about you. And last, I told you, the moss was not replaced while I was out of country; hence the animal did not shed properly. You reacted hysterically and ignorantly and declared that the "snake would be now be blind for life"! This showed me how ignorant/inexperienced you are with reptiles. I talked to both my mentors and decided the prudent thing to do was wait til it had its next successful shed and document it to rest assured your irrational beliefs before shipment. I am losing money keeping this snake and feeding it each week. You cant do anything with it anyway, it is too young to breed. Keeping it is the right thing to do until it is ready. As soon as it is ready to ship, it will arrive. Until then I asked you to stop harassing me. But you wouldn't. I hope you thoroughly enjoy the deceit and propaganda you have stirred up for nothing. Negative people do negative things. Stop pretending you are a victim.