Randall Nash Hartdegen

Originally Posted by CliffsideExotics

Until Randall can prove to me that he is who he days he is, I'm no longer a part of his business/nonprofit/rescue/whatever you want to call it. I'm hoping to video chat with his mentor (Luke J Harmon) to clear up some of the social media crap storm, but as of right now, I and Cliffside Exotics are no longer a part of The Hartdegen Habitats Reptile Rescue or The Furever Haus Sanctuary. I'll still consider Randall as a friend, and I'll still be in contact with him as a friend, but as a business, I'm distancing myself from the rescue

Did he tell you that he was 28 with a masters working on his phd? If so and you can see he's 19, why would you want to be friends with him? Not trying to get on your case, but if someone lies that much to you, do you really know him at all?

He actually told me he was 20, he told the group chat he was in that he was 36 or 46 (I can't really remember the little details like that), his story seemed straight to me before I agreed to join him. He told me he was 20 AFTER I agreed, it was my first red flag that I may have agreed to something that wouldn't last long. Social media blasts like this rip apart at a person's emotions, it doesn't always show publicly, but in some people, even the slightest step across a certain point with tear them down into a blob of twisted thoughts and emotions, just talking with him today went from 'I'm done' to 'hey, check this out' to 'why do I even bother' to 'just give up on me', that was all within the last 5 hours. I'm honestly concerned that he's suicidal and may attempt to take his life again, he may or may not be who he claims, but as someone I've known for a good amount of time, I don't want to see that happen

Originally Posted by CliffsideExotics

I'm honestly concerned that he's suicidal

If you feel this way after speaking with him, please help him by calling the number below as soon as you can:

Originally Posted by CliffsideExotics

I'm honestly concerned that he's suicidal

I have made contact with someone in Idaho, I believe she will help.

I hope the kid gets help. I also hope he learns to keep his mouth shut as literally every opinion he has concerning herpetology and herpetologists is absolutely incorrect. Every professional in the herp field I have been lucky enough to work with has been a committed conservationist who could have easily worked with other classes of animals for greater funding and academic glory. To insinuate that herpetologists rarely follow the law is another nail in his coffin of lies. I hope he gets well and never works around another herp again.

I mean, I have those days where I ask myself why I even bother trying, but I've never gone as far as actually attempting to take my own life, I've always had at least one person try to snap me out of it, I guess I'm that one person, now

He killed himself a few months ago?

I don't know if everything he says is true anymore, but he says he attempted to when his mother found him in time to get medical attention

I would forward those messages to his mother or family member.

Originally Posted by CliffsideExotics

II guess I'm that one person, now

I hope you called that number I showed, then. If you have not please do so asap.