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Old 04-20-2018, 01:06 PM   #41
Keven2
Another lie I'm not kick off any uromastyx page I will post a pic of me being on it right now. Everything out of your mouth is a lie!
 
Old 04-20-2018, 01:07 PM   #42
Keven2
Me not being kicked off the page. I can't believe the stuff coming out off your mouth
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:17 PM   #43
Keven2
You know you never even told me they were sick and I know why. It's because you knew that you never got enclosures for them. I'm telling you right now if you would have had these and cared for them properly and something happened I would more then likely replace it just like I am that frog. I only offer a live arrival guarantee but if those things honestly failed cause of something I did I would replace them but I know if I send you another you will just kill it too. I absolutely hate to hear that any animal suffers and dies. I'll take responsibility for not getting pics of your enclosure this is something that will happen every time from now on but you blatantly lied to me to get me to send them. I told you they would not live in together in a 20 gallon tank. I'm so mad at you not for this humiliating post you put up here I'm so freaking mad cause you killed that Saharan. It wasn't a newbie mistake you lied to get what you wanted and the uromastyx paid the price! I'm literally sick to my stomach right now knowing I sent that uro to you!
 
Old 04-20-2018, 01:20 PM   #44
AppEcto
OK, I've attempted to wade through the drama on facebook for relevant details. Neither party comes out smelling like a rose, but I'll attach screenshots of what seemed to be the most pertinent information to me so we have a lasting record on the BOI.

In the interest of establishing a time frame, they arrived February 20th (Tabea stated they arrived on the 19th, but that was a Monday and the screenshots of their messages show the correct timeframe). There was some miscommunication and they were apparently shipped on the wrong day. A heat pack was used and they arrived alive, but Keven made it a point to state there would be no live arrival guarantee due to temperatures. This undermines his claims about concern for the animals' well-being as well as her grievance since she willingly accepted animals without a live arrival guarantee and they lived in her care for weeks afterwards.
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:23 PM   #45
AppEcto
She alternatively claims they were housed together for only a day, less than a week, and then shows/claims they were together for nearly 3 weeks. She also acknowledges everyone told her not to house together, yet she still did.
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:26 PM   #46
AppEcto
One lost a toe, but she doesn't believe it was bitten off by the larger individual because she didn't see it happen. She also states she knows she's to blame for killing the one that died.
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:29 PM   #47
AppEcto
She claims he was seen by a vet and medicated, all free of charge and without any records. According to the quote below, this same vet found no problems with her enclosure.

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Originally Posted by tmcgrath View Post
The seller kept saying it was my enclosure that was the problem but the vet and a reptile specialist says otherwise.
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:33 PM   #48
AppEcto
Quote:
Originally Posted by tmcgrath View Post
He died two weeks after I got him...
This is proven to be false.
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:36 PM   #49
AppEcto
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He had stuck shed on his feet and the coconut oil couldn’t get it off. He lost the toe long before it fell off.
This contradicts "My poor baby lost his toe and I have no idea how"
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:38 PM   #50
AppEcto
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My brother and sister both had 75gal tanks they weren’t using and offered to bring them over which they did. One of which is now in my basement and the other being used by my Moroccan.
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Originally Posted by tmcgrath View Post
I first off did have a 20 gal tank and when told it was way too small I bought two 75 gal tanks.
Another contradiction
 

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