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02-08-2016, 08:04 PM
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Motley question... Can't find the answer.
I was trying to find the answer to whether Colombian and Central motleys are compatible. I've only found a single breeding posted anywhere, and the litter was small, without a super, so couldn't prove it either way... So does anyone know whether this was further investigated?
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02-15-2016, 04:18 PM
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I wouldn't think so, I wouldn't breed for super motley anyways knowing they're almost always doomed from birth
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02-15-2016, 05:05 PM
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Well, the CA supers appear to be a pretty strong animal, with female supers producing litters, and males siring litters.
If they are compatible, it would be a way to make more outcrossed and robust animals. Not to mention the stronger pattern retention within Colombians benefiting from the better coloring from the Centrals.
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02-15-2016, 06:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Randall Turner
Well, the CA supers appear to be a pretty strong animal, with female supers producing litters, and males siring litters.
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Do you have a cite for that? My understanding is that every super motley produced has been a slithering train wreck, CA or not.
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02-15-2016, 11:59 PM
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That is an interesting read. I would have to have more referenced litters of CA supers to believe that wasn't a fluke or some other morph involved.
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02-16-2016, 12:18 AM
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It would be great to see more evidence one way or another. Unfortunately many people hide failures, or at the minimum don't go out of their way to share results with the community. Combine that with an assumed bad outcome (whether rightly so or not) few if any attempt now.
May end up being something I'll have to address myself eventually. If it is I'll definitely share results good/bad/ugly.
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02-16-2016, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Randall Turner
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The dam was a 2007 CA super motley Het T+, sire was a hypo het T+ albino. She had six babies, four were stillborn, two lived, not what I would call a strong litter.
Even for a CA she is tiny for five years old - the problem with super motleys seems related to size rather than age. You'd have to practically maintenance feed a female to get it to breeding age.
Personally if I want a black boa I'll get an IMG.
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02-16-2016, 12:55 AM
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I'll have an IMG one day.
I find the write up interesting, but not conclusive evidence that ca super mots are defect free.
I personally don't own any motleys, but I wouldn't take the risk if I did.
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02-16-2016, 01:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bcr229
The dam was a 2007 CA super motley Het T+, sire was a hypo het T+ albino. She had six babies, four were stillborn, two lived, not what I would call a strong litter.
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Yeah, that's far from a strong litter, I hadn't seen that information for her. Thanks for sharing it.
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Originally Posted by bcr229
Even for a CA she is tiny for five years old - the problem with super motleys seems related to size rather than age. You'd have to practically maintenance feed a female to get it to breeding age.
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That would be quite a problem, and reason to avoid breeding for supers, let alone plan to attempt using a super in a project.
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