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01-21-2005, 12:38 PM
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I'm positive this trait is genetic (thus proven), based on what I've seen
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which trait ? mind filling us in a bit on what it is you have seen ?
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01-21-2005, 12:40 PM
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Tremper's red eyed trait in his RAPTORS.
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01-21-2005, 03:14 PM
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well...
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Tremper sent me one with an eye and tail deformity.
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He sent me one that only had 6 out of 20 toes!
I'm not going to mention any names here, but I know of 2 breeders who visited RT's facility right before he was getting ready to introduce the APTOR, and there were several marked to go to a certain breeder in NY.
Personally, I would rather let other breeders spend that kind of money on a genetically unproven morph so they can prove them out and sell them cheaper! My bad... hehe!
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01-21-2005, 03:23 PM
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wow, i think im starting to understand some peoples hatred for tremper. i know i would be highly angry to buy a gecko from him, to get one thats unbreedable or mamed.
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01-21-2005, 03:43 PM
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not to sound mean but some of you out there
THOUGHT you werent buying geckos from ron . "6 out of 20" ? wow that doesnt sit well with me either
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01-21-2005, 03:58 PM
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THOUGHT you werent buying geckos from ron . "6 out of 20" ? wow that doesnt sit well with me either
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Dan - That most likely happened quite a while ago... Marcia will clarify I am certain.
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01-21-2005, 04:03 PM
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Yeah, I am pretty sure the red eye trait in the "Raptor" is genetic as well. How? Who the heck knows, the first ones hatched just last year, it has to be proven out first!
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01-21-2005, 04:45 PM
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clarification...
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THOUGHT you werent buying geckos from ron . "6 out of 20" ? wow that doesnt sit well with me either
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Dan - That most likely happened quite a while ago... Marcia will clarify I am certain.
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About two years ago, I purchased an awesome designer albino male from RT, and he was missing most of his toes - obviously to poor sheds. I immediately emailed RT about it, and he called me back to apologize. Since it was not a genetic defect, I kept the gecko anyway.
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01-21-2005, 07:51 PM
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im saying ron will say the red eyes are recessive i got 10 on that
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01-21-2005, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by montezuma
Don't you hate that when you post and are replying to one that is no longer the last post!
Anyways, now that I am caught up...
Were the deformities obvious? was it a scratch and dent sale?
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The eye isn't obvious, but one eye is smaller than the other.
The tail is very obvious. We're not talking a kink at the tip, we're talking dead center of the tail there's an indentation on one side of the tail. It's significantly noticeable.
I did not mention this to Ron, I didn't spend that much (it was a subadult giant het for albino) and certainly was disgusted enough that I did not want a replacement.
I was also turned off by Ron's packaging, which included a slip warning that the gecko might be in a 'cold coma' and that I should not be worried..... That just didn't sit right with me.
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