RIPOFF WARNING and REWARD

Jackie...I love you, too, sweetheart! Now, go to your room! lol

Hey, I'm very opinionated!! What can I do?? As I always say..."I might disagree with what you're saying, but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it!"

Now Rob...You totally misinterpreted my "steps"...I'll do it longhand....
You have a Boa you want to trade....I CALL YOU and say, "Will you take MY Ackie in trade?"...You say, "Yes!" I am offering the trade...which means, I WILL SHIP FIRST!

You KNOW I have an Ackie to trade...YOU CALL ME and ask, "Will I take YOUR Boa in trade?"...I say, "Yes!"...YOU are offering the trade...which means, YOU WILL SHIP FIRST!

Unless the two of you work out some other sort of arrangement...

But, you're right! The person who receives the animal FIRST, is the one who holds ALL THE CARDS!! That's why I say you've GOT TO know how honest the "other" guy is??? This is where the RISK come in to play!! I KNOW ME!!! If I get an animal in first...mine gets shipped out IMMEDIATELY!! If you don't know the animal...know the dealer???

Just for the record...I'm really NOT trying to sound like a "father figure"! I AM 50 years old (in 2 days), and it's the ONLY way I know how to express myself??? Honestly and point blank! I don't hide behind anything! And, I have NO PROBLEM taking a little heat when you perceive me to be wrong...I'll come right back and state my views openly! ....Neil

Hi Kevin

I live in Georgia, but not near Dalton (about 100 miles).  Tell me (us) a little more about the trade and I will see what info I can dig up.  What did you trade to him?  How long ago was this.  Have you had any other contact?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Neil Gubitz - The Snake Pit @ April 02 2002,17:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">But then....when the "other guy" DOESN'T live up to his end of the bargain....you come here and go for the sympathy card! I'm sorry, but I have NO sympathy for that!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Okay, I've been reading and watching and feel that this statement is unfair. You are supposed to come to the BOI to post these experiences. That is what the board is for. Heck, I have no sympathy for anyone that does something dumb, but we all make mistakes and I appreciate him posting this here. I'll make sure I make no deals with that person in the future. I like to come here and check on folks I'm thinking about doing buisiness with. That is why there is a BOI.

I got your back, Neil!!! &nbsp;<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

Just thought I'd put my little touch to this thread. I myself have been burned before. Hard. So I live by the philosophy of "Buyer Beware". There are plenty of people out there willing to take our money and/or our trades. Otherwise, there would hardly be a need for the BOI. It is the responsibility of each and every buyer/trader to research the person they're dealing with. To not do so is to invite trouble. Just like not quarantining new animals, even though they appear to be healthy. If you fail to use common sense, you deserve what you get. I don't wish for anyone to be scammed. However, I firmly believe in "Buyer Beware". Ask questions, do the research. It pays off in the long run. I hope you get your snake back, Kevin. &nbsp; <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

TC...First of all...If you would take the time to read the posts above this, you would see that I ALREADY agreed that I was wrong! But...just for you...I was wrong! This IS the place to come with those experiences! How's that??

Secondly...you've got to use your FULL NAME on this site...NOT just initials....thems am the rules! ....Neil

I am the real John!!!

Neil,
You are too funny. ROFLMFAO. 10,000 Comedians out of work and you're trying to be funny!!! In my previous post, I was stating to Kevin my hopes that he recovered his snake. Not signing off as Kevin!!! Guess the monks and Miss Cleo failed you on that one, eh? &nbsp;<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>

THE REAL JOHN........

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Neil Gubitz - The Snake Pit @ April 02 2002,23:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Secondly...you've got to use your FULL NAME on this site...NOT just initials....thems am the rules! ....Neil</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Actually T.C. is the actual name I go by and have for years. It is actually what is on my drivers license. Is that good enough for officer kibitz or Gubitz(same thing).

Well sorry to hear about your bad trade experience. spam_I would be lieing if i said i haven't been taken on the internet. spam_In fact, more than once but when you want what the other person has you take the gamble. spam_But i just want to say you guys out there have a hell of alot of extra time on your hands to be writing stuff back and forth at each other. spam_Ritchie one of the only good trades i have had was with you. spam_and a few other guys i just have not been selling on the net bc of the royal pain in the and bashing that i have noticed lately. spam_I would really hope that this segment of the pet industry, that i love so dearly would just practice the golden rule (do on to other as you would want one to do on to you). Hey sorry if i offended anyone it was not my intention. spam_Just i little frustrated with how the BOI has taken the industry and turned it into a he said she said bunch of ----. spam_The BOI could really be a usefull tool if people would drop their egos and mature a little. spam_Just my opinion that will also be bashed and sorry if i do not defend it but i have 2 jobs and no desire. spam_Well to all the herp lovers out there keep on herpin. spam_Peace to all even the bashers. LOL
Jeff Draesel, Jr.
Herps Limited Inc.
herpsltd@bellsouth.net

Jeff D spam_well said.. spam_I come here almost everyday. spam_the BOI is a very good tool at keeping check on everyone. spam_but i too am tired of the slamming that goes on.. spam_I usually remain silent but this thread has alot of bashing going on. spam_Neil spam_I am glad you admitted you were wrong.. sometimes your funny and sometimes your NOT. spam_I really don't think Kevin is very happy about being ripped off and blasted too... If there is someone that needs to be slammed spam_I believe its Ken Harris. spam_I am done my preaching. spam_Good luck Kevin
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sorry if this goes off the original topic but in response to josh and mandy and the trade of female boa..
i had contacted her myself in regards to that boa..asking for a price..she could not give me a price..then wrote me thanking me for the offer..what offer i responded..then she tells me of a trade for several corns that she wanted and the snake was off the market. meanwhile i see a post somewhere else on fauna saying she was trading a rescue snake and a link to another site with rescue info on it..that included her site that showed her info and also a picture of the same snake and statements that included..we never sell our rescued animals..some other herper had warned us of that potential in the situation....i &nbsp;knew something was fishy about the deal from the first email and her most arrogant attitude about the whole thing.
anyhow..sorry to hear you got burned.
i think it might have been a girl named rachel that had posted the warning on the trade page..not sure..
if this is hard to follow forgive me..its early here..and my java hasent completely kicked in yet.