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Old 04-07-2017, 04:12 PM   #2
bcr229
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We therefore decline to conclude that Congress, by implication, altered the meaning of the shipment clause’s terms so as to criminalize the interstate shipment of every Lacey Act species. Rather, the clause continues to mean what it has meant since its enactment: it prohibits the shipment of injurious species between the listed jurisdictions, including to and from the continental United States, but it does not speak to shipments between the 49 continental States.
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For the foregoing reasons, we affirm the district court’s judgment and hold as a matter of law that the government lacks authority under the shipment clause to prohibit shipments of injurious species between the continental States.
SUCK IT UP FWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
Old 04-07-2017, 04:49 PM   #3
AbsoluteApril
FANTABULOUS NEWS!


 
Old 04-07-2017, 06:41 PM   #4
rodneynboalich
heres a list of the things we can ship across state lines now............................................... .................
Invertebrate Invasive Species
Invertebrate species are animals which lack a spine or backbone. Example species include spiders and other insects; round, segmented, and flat worms; jellyfish; squids; sponges; and others.
Insects / Other Invertebrates
Africanized Honeybee (Apis mellifera scutellata)
Asian Citrus Psyllid (Diaphorina citri)
Asian Long-Horned Beetle (Anoplophora glabripennis)
Asian Tiger Mosquito (Aedes albopictus)
Brown Marmorated Stink Bug (Halyomorpha halys)
Cactus Moth (Cactoblastis cactorum)
Chilli Thrips (Scirtothrips dorsalis)
Citrus Longhorned Beetle (Anoplophora chinensis)
Common Pine Shoot Beetle (Tomicus piniperda)
Emerald Ash Borer (Agrilus planipennis)
European Grapevine Moth (Lobesia botrana)
European Gypsy Moth (Lymantria dispar)
European Spruce Bark Beetle (Ips typographus)
Formosan Subterranean Termite (Coptotermes formosanus)
Glassy-Winged Sharpshooter (Homalodisca vitripennis)
Hemlock Woolly Adelgid (Adelges tsugae)
Khapra Beetle (Trogoderma granarium)
Kudzu Bug (Megacopta cribraria)
Light Brown Apple Moth (Epiphyas postvittana)
Mediterranean Fruit Fly (Ceratitis capitata)
Mexican Fruit Fly (Anastrepha ludens)
Oriental Fruit Fly (Bactrocera dorsalis)
Pink Bollworm (Pectinophora gossypiella)
Pink Hibiscus Mealybug (Maconellicoccus hirsutus)
Red Imported Fire Ant (Solenopsis invicta)
Russian Wheat Aphid (Diuraphis noxia)
Silverleaf Whitefly (Bemisia tabaci)
Sirex Woodwasp (Sirex noctilio)......................................... .................................................. .......Giant African Snail (Lissachatina fulica)
Soybean Cyst Nematode (Heterodera glycines)......................................... .................................................. .Brown Tree Snake (Boiga irregularis)
Burmese Python (Python molurus bivittatus)
European Starling (Sturnus vulgaris)
Wild Boar (Sus scrofa)........................................... .................................................. .Alligatorweed (Alternanthera philoxeroides)
Brazilian Waterweed (Egeria densa)
Caulerpa, Mediterranean Clone (Caulerpa taxifolia)
Common Reed (Phragmites australis)
Curly Pondweed (Potamogeton crispus)
Didymo (Didymosphenia geminata)
Eurasian Watermilfoil (Myriophyllum spicatum)
Giant Reed (Arundo donax)
Giant Salvinia (Salvinia molesta)
Hydrilla (Hydrilla verticillata)
Melaleuca (Melaleuca quinquenervia)
Purple Loosestrife (Lythrum salicaria)
Water Chestnut (Trapa natans)
Water Hyacinth (Eichhornia crassipes)
Water Lettuce (Pistia stratiotes)
Water Spinach (Ipomoea aquatica)

Aquatic Invasive Animals
Alewife (Alosa pseudoharengus)
Asian Carps
Bighead Carp (Hypophthalmichthys nobilis)
Black Carp (Mylopharyngodon piceus)
Grass Carp (Ctenopharyngodon idella)
Silver Carp (Hypophthalmichthys molitrix)
Asian Clam (Corbicula fluminea)
Asian Shore Crab (Hemigrapsus sanguineus)
Asian Swamp Eel (Monopterus albus)
Bullfrog (Lithobates catesbeianus)
Channeled Apple Snail (Pomacea canaliculata)
Cane Toad (Rhinella marina)
Chinese Mitten Crab (Eriocheir sinensis)
Clubbed Tunicate (Styela clava)
Eurasian Ruffe (Gymnocephalus cernuus)
European Green Crab (Carcinus maenas)
Flathead Catfish (Pylodictis olivaris)
Lionfish (Pterois volitans)
New Zealand Mud Snail (Potamopyrgus antipodarum)
Northern Snakehead (Channa argus)
Nutria (Myocastor coypus)
Quagga Mussel (Dreissena rostriformis bugensis)
Round Goby (Neogobius melanostomus)
Rusty Crayfish (Orconectes rusticus)
Sea Lamprey (Petromyzon marinus)
Sea Squirt (Didemnum vexillum)
Spiny Water Flea (Bythotrephes longimanus)
Veined Rapa Whelk (Rapana venosa)
White Spotted Jellyfish (Phyllorhiza punctata)
Zebra Mussel (Dreissena polymorpha)....................................... ...............................................thi s isnt all of them...i couldnt fine the whole list...theres plants too.....anybody that thinks this is going to work out well is beyond stupid........this is what the usark lawsuit win just did...
 
Old 04-07-2017, 07:32 PM   #5
NathanKS
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Originally Posted by rodneynboalich View Post
heres a list of the things we can ship across state lines now............................................... .................

*some lines removed*
this isnt all of them...i couldnt fine the whole list...theres plants too.....anybody that thinks this is going to work out well is beyond stupid........this is what the usark lawsuit win just did...
There are plants are on your list....

Attached is a list of 201+ Caudata species, not included in your list, that should have never been placed on the list.

While it is important to have regulations restricting the movement of injurious wildlife, The outright ban on transport was excessive and USFW saying I would need to kill my pets if I ever moved out of state was abhorrent.

We need legislation that makes sense and has some finesse. Banning all transport was about as blunt of an instrument as USFW could have possibly used.
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Old 04-08-2017, 08:02 PM   #6
snowgyre
This is only at the federal level. States are free to enact their own bans, so don't assume that you can ship anywhere now.
 
Old 04-08-2017, 09:00 PM   #7
rodneynboalich
states can make their own laws that can be considered a lacey act violation to cross state lines some cases....since its illegal to bring burms into FL because FL has a ban on burms coming in,,,you can get hit with a lacey act violation for crossing a state line for bringing an animal thats illegal in FL...there is a clause in lacey act that says its a federal crime to cross a state line with an animal thats possession of it is illegal... so as far as i know its still a lacey act violation to ship those listed snakes to any state that has state laws banning their entry into the state...
 
Old 04-09-2017, 02:40 PM   #8
Reptiles 101
So we can ship burmese as long as the state were shipping to allows it?
 
Old 04-09-2017, 03:33 PM   #9
JColt
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Originally Posted by Reptiles 101 View Post
So we can ship burmese as long as the state were shipping to allows it?
This is still on going so no shipping. This does allow us to work on a common sense agenda with out the hysterics that caused ban in first place.
 
Old 04-09-2017, 04:01 PM   #10
JColt
I should have said, I think no shipping yet as I'm not sure. Keep an eye on USARK for coming info.
 

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