Brandon Griffey

Originally Posted by Lucille

The buffaloes are out in force I see.

There goes the sheep..

Originally Posted by ReptileGeek181

Thank god I'm not in the breeding snakes for money business, with the business motto you guys keep how do you sleep at night?

And somehow Brandon is righteously breeding for the betterment of Ball Pythons?

Do you wear blinders on purpose or have they just been their all your life so you do not know any better?

Originally Posted by Lucille

The buffaloes are out in force I see.

I don't know that his ability to influence anyone deserves even that much credit, but he definitely likes to leave behind a trail of to mark his passing.

Originally Posted by ShadowAceD

And somehow Brandon is righteously breeding for the betterment of Ball Pythons?

Do you wear blinders on purpose or have they just been their all your life so you do not know any better?

Cool assumption bro! Lol I never said that

Newbies.. I gotta admit.. I find humor in their "crash n burns!"

I know right lol.

Originally Posted by ShadowAceD

Also, you know who looks greedy?

Someone who throws a male into a tub with a female to breed the day he pulls it out of a shipping box.

Where does it say Brandon attempted t obreed the potion the day he recieved it, where does it even say the snakes were locked up?

All this talk about quarantine is over the top, we all should quarantine for 90 days but how many of you "experts" do so? and during those 90 days what are you looking for? did / do you have and medical examination's? and how many have a seperate room just for that?

Quarantine or not, that snake should have been allowed to acclimate before being put in with females. It wasn't a lack of quarantine that killed it; it was a lack of quarantine that makes Brandon and Tom look like they don't care about their personal collections.

It also doesn't matter if there were locks or not. 2 females were placed with that male within the 9 days that it was there. Even if it was day 8 and 9, one week isn't enough time for it to settle in. I wonder if they even attempted to feed him. I know balls tend to go off feed in the breeding season, but if he wasn't in breeding mode anyway, why not remove the females for a bit, attempt feeding, and try again later?

Originally Posted by ShadowAceD

Also, you know who looks greedy?

Someone who throws a male into a tub with a female to breed the day he pulls it out of a shipping box.

Hahaha I'm greedy hun? Because I ask for my snakes back after the snake I got died in 8 days if you want to be technical. Y'all making your self's look bad by making up stuff and going way off topic. What's next I'm going to mass produce normals? IT DID NOT BREEEEEEEEEDD!! witch means it didn't lock up. So y'all think that everybody that brings any reptile to public shows, quarantine every animal that's there's for 90 days before they put them back in there original cage or tub. I can't wait until the final testing is done so y'all can go troll another thread. Why would I put the snake that wasted right in the snake bag into the tub with one of my females that don't even make any sense. Didn't Xavier ask me on May 9th have I bread for me yet? And I said not yet. That don't mean I put it with one yet. Did I put it in with a female YES I DID. Did I put it in the same day NOOOOO. So all the breeders that's selling breeder males right now that's advertising ”Ready for your Females now” and not preaching quarantine they must be bad guys Too hun? If I'm so greedy why would I pay $1500 in vet bills? If I didn't care about the well being of my collection and Xavier's collection. I provided great costumer sevice and shipping and receiving in less then 5 hours and I gave Xavier enchi pastel as throw in a $1500 snake when he was asking me for any single gene codom female that I'm sold out of. I stand by the quality and and health of every snake or animal I sell.

Originally Posted by Snakemanbonk

Hahaha I'm greedy hun? Because I ask for my snakes back after the snake I got died in 8 days if you want to be technical. Y'all making your self's look bad by making up stuff and going way off topic. What's next I'm going to mass produce normals? IT DID NOT BREEEEEEEEEDD!! witch means it didn't lock up. So y'all think that everybody that brings any reptile to public shows, quarantine every animal that's there's for 90 days before they put them back in there original cage or tub. I can't wait until the final testing is done so y'all can go troll another thread. Why would I put the snake that wasted right in the snake bag into the tub with one of my females that don't even make any sense. Didn't Xavier ask me on May 9th have I bread for me yet? And I said not yet. That don't mean I put it with one yet. Did I put it in with a female YES I DID. Did I put it in the same day NOOOOO. So all the breeders that's selling breeder males right now that's advertising ”Ready for your Females now” and not preaching quarantine they must be bad guys Too hun? If I'm so greedy why would I pay $1500 in vet bills? If I didn't care about the well being of my collection and Xavier's collection. I provided great costumer sevice and shipping and receiving in less then 5 hours and I gave Xavier enchi pastel as throw in a $1500 snake when he was asking me for any single gene codom female that I'm sold out of. I stand by the quality and and health of every snake or animal I sell.

1.) Explain to me how proper quarantine or acclimation periods is off topic in the death of an overstressed juvenile?

2.) It does not matter if it bred. It was put in the female anyway. Two females in fact.

3.) What testing is being done to prove whatever was wrong with it happened in Xavier's care?

4.) You never put it in with anything, Thomas did, but since you guys have trouble figuring out who does what, whatever. Fact remains, the day of or two days later, it was introduced without a proper period of acclimation to destress.

5.) That defense does not work anywhere. Try telling a cop everyone goes five miles over the speed limit when you get pulled over for it one day.

6.) I'd like to see the 1500.00 spent in vet. bills and just who paid for it.

7.) The time in transit is irrelevant when the entire time in transit was on an airplane (serious altitude and temperature shifts) where package handling is less than careful.

8.) What are y'all doing about the two females exposed to Salmonella?
7.) It was your choice to agree to two animals for the one, so I am not sure what you are attempting to accomplish there.