I was SCAMMED by Joe Oswald

he screwed you. plain and simple

Mr. Oswald, I produce far fewer snakes than you, but I still find it necessary to mark all of my images of them with that particular animal's ID number. You might consider that approach, as it may have allowed you to avoid this kind of mistake.

Originally Posted by JCCS

As someone with quite a bit of experience breeding boas, especially centering around the selective breeding of them, if I paid $1800 for an animal and it wasn't the EXACT snake that I picked out or was interested in, it would be a massive deal. Joe, these are not ball pythons. Having the same genetics is not everything. From what I saw, the snake that Charles received was, at least in my opinion, a lesser animal than the snake he believed he was purchasing. Boas are highly variable and the babies produced from the two snakes would not be on the same level or of the same value. You need to just wait for the dispute to end and return his money, come back here with your tail between your legs and apologize to Charles for wasting his time and learn a massive lesson from this. I would hope you're paying for all shipping costs as well, since you made such a major mistake.

Also, Ed, there is no way in hell I would send Joe his snake back until I had my money. When dishonesty, even when it MIGHT be a mistake, is present on the seller's end, Charles has every right to protect himself from further loss. On a side note, how on earth do you not remember what month a bloody salmon litter was born in the previous year? You really need to re-evaluate your business methods. You're trying to sell high dollar animals like a wholesaler sells normals. After your responses here, I don't have much faith that you're capable of that kind of introspection, unfortunately. Charles, good luck getting your money back.

Precisely.

Joe,

Tracking info sent in PM.

Charles seems like a class act, exceptionally polite and professional.

Joe, not so much. I'm glad he is making this right, but look what it took to get to a point of resolution. And he was calling names and being unpleasant.

I know who I would want to do business with.

Charles, I hope things go smoothly from here on out. Thanks for keeping the BOI updated on the situation.

This situation is almost complete. Joe has been doing his part. The refund is still pending. I am happy it’s almost done.

Joe had initiated the refund process but the first attempt was denied by his bank.

Originally Posted by GotBoas

Joe had initiated the refund process but the first attempt was denied by his bank.

So his claim that PP was going to cover the money was a big fat lie. (not surprising)

Echeck... That is the first sign he doesn't have the money, as they take a long time to clear.

The refund with PayPal to my CC has cleared today. I believe Joe started this process over a week ago as he stated. But it took time to clear because my CC company was communicating with PayPal as well. They wanted to be included in every step. Then the refund was directed right to my CC. Never even touched my PayPal balance.

I'm so glad to hear that you were able to get your money back.