DAVE @ EAST TN REPTILES (HOGG BOA)

03-14-2002, 02:57 PM

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HI ALL,
WELL THIS SADDENED ME TODAY.
I EMAILED DAVE ABOUT HIS CARPET (LISTED AT 150&#036<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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DUMERIL (LISTED AT 130&#036<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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WE TALKED ABOUT M/O'S AND PAYPAL ETC...WHEN I ASKED
HIM FOR HOW MUCH FOR BOTH HE SAID 300$. (YEAH I KNOW
150+130 IS NOT 300&#33<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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200$ RANGE AND APPOLOGIZED FOR ANY CONFUSION BUT THAT I WOULDNT BE ABLE TO DO IT.  I THEN EMAILED AND ASKED HIM HOW MUCH FOR JUST THE CARPET.
I GET A EMAIL BACK SAYING HE WOULD TAKE 200 $ AND SHIP
COLLECT(NOT SPECIFYING ONE OR BOTH SNAKES BUT I ASSUMED BOTH SINCE HE SAID HE NEEDED CASH FAST) . I EMAILED BACK AND SAID GREAT, 200 FOR BOTH IS
A DEAL. HE EMAILED ME BACK AND SAID :
200$.  I'LL GIVE THEM BOTH TO YA FOR 300$ !

NOW I'M NO ROCKET SCIENTIST BY NO MEANS, BUT HE HAD THE CARPET LISTED AT 150$, BUT THOUGHT HE COULD GET 200$ FROM ME?  HE HAD THEM LISTED FOR A COMBINED TOTAL OF 280$ BUT THOUGHT HE COULD GET 300$ FROM ME?
WITH THE SHIPPING BEING PUT ON MY ACCOUNT.
THERE WAS NO CONFUSION HERE.
AS MUCH AS I WANTED THE CARPET, I'LL TAKE MY BUSINESS
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GOD BLESS TO ALL
BEN SPARKS@C.R.C.
CUSTOM REPTILE CARPENTRY
TAHLEQUAH, OK

03-14-2002, 03:43 PM

Ben,
I don't know you but from what I've seen and read here you appear to be a very honest and reputable man. I can say from my dealings with Dave that he is also. On three separate occasions I've sent him animals and had him pay me afterwards at will so I know first hand he is very trustworthy. You stated that there was no confusion in your correspondence but I honestly think that you and Dave were on two different wavelengths. I'm not sure exactly what was said but I don't think Dave is trying to take advantage of you. Maybe he has a wrong price in his ads because both seem very reasonable. There's obviously something wrong because you're right the numbers don't make sense. I'm sure there's an honest explanation if you give him a chance to straighten it out.

03-14-2002, 04:11 PM

HI GREG,
I DO SINCERLY HOPE THAT YOUR ARE RIGHT, HOWEVER;
HE ADVERTISED WHAT I STATED ABOVE AND THAT IS IN THE
CLASSIFIEDS.  HIS PREVIOUS ADD TO THAT ONE HAD THE
CARPET AT 150, THE DUM AT 140, OR 300 FOR BOTH/SHIPPING INCLUDED. I DONT THINK THERE IS ANY MISUNDERSTANDING AS MUCH AS I WISH IT WAS. HE LOWERED THE PRICE ON THE DUM BY 10$ IN THE SECOND ADD. HE HAD THE CARPET LISTED AT 150$ IN BOTH ADDS.
THEN TOLD ME HE WOULD SHIP THE CARPET COD FOR 200$
ON MY SHIPPING ACCOUNT.
NO, I DONT THINK THERES A MISUNDERSTANDING.

GOD BLESS
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03-14-2002, 04:24 PM

I have to agree, sounds like a misunderstanding. spam_Though I have not yet officially completed a deal with Dave (we have come close on more than one occation), we have corresponded several times and he seems like a very good guy. spam_I know quite a few people who have had positive dealings with him and I have also read many good things about him on the old BOI as well.

I hope you guys work things out...

03-14-2002, 09:27 PM

Ben,
After reading both of his ads. The $300 he told was price he had in ad for both shipped meaning he would only be charging you $20.00 for your part of the shipping & he would absorb the rest his first ad reads 0.1 spam_3 1/2 ft Jungle Carpet Python,great color! pounds rats!..$150
1.0 Dumeril Boa,3ft,nice...$140
Take BOTH with shipping included for $300!! I estimate shipping to be $40 or higher.I have pics of both.Both are healthy,eating and NO mites! I need to move too make room. My loss is YOUR gain!
His second ad just lowered price on Dum but didn't mention shipping being included. Shipping for me just about anywhere overnight is between $40-$65.
Sounds like just some confusion as I have dealt with Dave in the past & had no problems.
Chris Pearson @Quality Rainbow Boas

03-14-2002, 11:37 PM

Chris is exactly right! I was trying to cut Ben a BETTER deal if he took the Dumeril with the Jungle. I also told Ben I was leaving for work and would contact him when I got off work.
Sooooooooooo he e mailed me about 8 times,told me he'd take em........then comes here and wastes everyones time trying to tell people to be "careful" over a VERY simple misunderstanding that he couldn't wait untill I got home from work to contact him!
Shoot, Chris Pearson figuered it out just by reading the posts. Come on Ben! Chill! I've been breeding / selling snakes for 13 years................NEVER one complaint. So don't start now with a bunch of BS!
Ben, What is wrong with you? You couldn't wait until I got home? you've NEVER,EVER done business with me and come here telling people to be "careful"! You sure wouldn't jump to conclusions......................? Evidently you did.
NEVER "bad mouth " me! ESPECIALLY when YOU have NO idea what your talking about! Do I make myself clear?!
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03-14-2002, 11:43 PM

This is the last e mail Ben Sparks sent me..after I'd left for work. Judge for yourself !200 FOR BOTH IS A DEAL.
MY SHIPPING ADDRESS IS

METALS USA
ATTN:BEN SPARKS
2800 N. 43RD ST. EAST
MUSKOGEE, OK
74403-1145
918-487-6803

THANKS FOR THE GOOD DEAL, SORRY I COULDNT HELP YOU OUT MORE. IF YOU SHIP TODAY I CAN GIVE AIRBORNE A CHECK TOMMORROW <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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03-15-2002, 01:08 AM

Ben...Sorry, buddy...but, this time...you BLEW IT!! AGAIN...had you waited till Dave got home, EVERYTHING would have been explained! As I've said SO MANY TIMES in other posts....COMMON COURTESY?<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> You CAN'T go lambasting someone for something YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND??? Ben...you keep SAYING you're a religeous man....SHOW IT!! Stop being in such a rush to accuse because he didn't answer his email while he was DRIVING HOME!! When will you guys get it through your head that if you come in THIS public forum with innuendo, supposition, and inflammatory accusations WITHOUT PROOF!!...it's gonna end up BITING YOU IN THE ASS! Do you LIKE having to apologize?? If you would just take a deep breath...do some RESEARCH...and TALK TO EACH OTHER OVER PHONE LINES, (remember what they are?) You'll never have to follow these TWO STEPS again!!

1. Open Mouth
2. Insert Foot!

I REALLY think you owe Dave an apology, Ben....

....Neil

03-15-2002, 02:04 PM

??? Just for the record,if anyone is wondering..You can trust Dave completely..Hell he has a great reputation already without me saying this but..he is a good freind of mine that I have known for years so I'm stepping up to the plate..Dave couldnt screw anyone if he wanted to,,he's just not built that way period...I have been to his house I dont know how many times and his animals are always well fed and in clean cages..He lives and breathes reptiles and will try and help you anyway he can...Watch for Dave in the future,he is a up and coming breeder with a few suprises up his sleeve...And he is without a doubt one of the good guys.......Dont hesitate with Dave or you'll miss out.........................Moe...US.Boid :)

03-19-2002, 10:42 AM

Ben's at it again.....should I take this as a threat? This is what he just e mailed me.....after the people reading these post even figuered what was going on !, poor little guy, seems like he's VERY confused  here's his last e mail VERY NICE,
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NICE BIT OF WRITING BELOW , YET NO EXPLANATION.
ALSO, I'LL DO WHAT I LIKE, WHEN I LIKE, IF I THINK YOUR BAD, I WILL SAY MY PEACE, AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU WILL EVER BE ABLE TO DO ABOUT THAT.
NOW PLEASE TRY TO EXPLAIN THE 200$ FOR THE CARPET, WHEN IT WAS LISTED AT 150, AND YOU SAID SHIPPING WOULD RUN 40 FOR BOTH. THIS ALL CONSIDERING THAT YOU DID "FORGET" THAT I SAID I WOULD COVER THE SHIPPING ON MY ACCOUNT. IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN THIS LEGITAMATELY I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO LOOSE FACE ON THE BOI. YOU HAVE TO ADMIT THIS LOOKS KINDA BAD WHEN YOU LIST AT 150 , THEN TELL ME 200. <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU.


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