Bobby Hill - Varnyard Herps: Buyers Beware.

Was the female extreme giant ever shipped to you?

Originally Posted by todeyius

Varnyard Herps is a complete scam.

I placed deposits down in March for a male red tegu and female extreme giant. In early July when I later discovered all these stories about bobby and 2011 red tegus, I called him to make sure everything was going to be fine. He said that he had extra red breeding pairs going this season and that he was 100% certain he would have a red tegu for me. He said the eggs were already laid, and that my red tegu was in a clutch scheduled to hatch of July 16. He said my extreme giant female had already hatched, but he was waiting on the red to hatch so he could ship them together. On July 18th I called him to check in & left a voicemail. The call was never returned. I have since heard from other people that he did not produce any reds.

Looking back on it all, I believe he knew up front that he would not have any reds, and sold one to me anyway. During our initial call he sounded a little shady when talking about the reds, and kept trying to sell me on an All American. I was dead set on a red though.

Complete scam. I don't throw around accusations lightly... but this is a complete scam.

It was not. I eventually bought only a red male from Ty and gave up on trying to get ahold of Bobby completely.

There are a ton of people on tegutalk right now in the same boat also. I got to this BOI link from one of the many 'Where the hell is my varnyard tegu' posts.

On a side note, the red I got from Ty is awesome. Great buying experience.

As requested, a cut and paste of my paypal transaction details is below. Only editing is that I changed the last 4 digits of CC and bank account to XXXX. Note that it was for only $225. I don't know how that adds up, or if he cut me a deal because I ordered two or whatever. I think a red deposit + giant deposit should be 125 + 175 = 300, but 225 is what he invoiced me for. I guess he has adding problems also.

Sent to:
bobby hill (The recipient of this payment is Verified)
Email:
twoteals@yahoo.com
Amount sent:
-$225.00 USD
Fee amount:
$0.00 USD
Net amount:
-$225.00 USD

Date:
Mar 29, 2012
Time:
19:25:46 PDT
Status:
Completed

Subject:
bobby hill
Note:
1 Female Extreme Giant Tegu 1 Male High Contrast Red Tegu
Funding Type:
Instant Transfer
Funding Source:
$225.00 USD - Bank of America Checking (Confirmed) x-XXXX
Back Up Funding Source:
Visa Card XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX

Originally Posted by Ed Clark

Was the female extreme giant ever shipped to you?

Meant to include this in my previous post - since Bobby claimed the extreme giant was already hatched, I'd be especially interested in seeing any communication explaining why it couldn't be sent. Of course, that would require admitting that he couldn't provide the paid for red tegu...which would in turn require an immediate refund - neither of which seem to be forthcoming from Bobby.
I didn't much care for Bobby, after some of his antics here; but I - like many - had him pegged as honest and good intentioned. I've expressed my disappointment in these developments before, but I can't help but say it again. This is just sad.

He said in a phone call around July 1 that he just wanted to ship them together. By this time I had read all the threads about him ignoring people, and I didn't want to get on his bad side so I just let it be. I thought if I pushed shipping the extreme asap he would put me in his 'irritating people' category and I might have trouble getting the red in a timely manner. I have not spoken to him since that call. I assume, as you said, he just didn't want stir the waters about the red. Even more interesting though was that he never invoiced me for the second half of the extreme when it hatched. I only found that it hatched when I contacted him for an update. I guess he REALLY didn't want to stir the waters with respect to the red.

I really wish I had paid more attention to some of the negative posts I found about him before I first contacted him. There were just too many people sticking up for him. They made it sound like a few people were just emailing him every day asking for an update, so he was selective in answering them. Boy was I wrong.

Don't feel bad Scott, you trusted him and he robbed you.you can't go thru life not trusting anyone.

The people sticking up for Bobby is a clear example of the buddy buddy good ol boy system alive and well, some will stick up for their friends regardless of how they treat others.

The number of people that were robbed by Bobby Hill should all start calling the Police Depts in Bobbys town and also their own town, if enought people start calling they will have to investigate this thief Bobby Hill.

Sorry this hapened to you, don't let it go keep after him.

Originally Posted by todeyius

I really wish I had paid more attention to some of the negative posts I found about him before I first contacted him. There were just too many people sticking up for him. They made it sound like a few people were just emailing him every day asking for an update, so he was selective in answering them. Boy was I wrong.

Originally Posted by todeyius

I really wish I had paid more attention to some of the negative posts I found about him before I first contacted him. There were just too many people sticking up for him. They made it sound like a few people were just emailing him every day asking for an update, so he was selective in answering them. Boy was I wrong.

I have a feeling that, before all is said and done, a lot more people are going to wish that they'd been less dismissive of the writing on the wall. It's no accident that bobby avoids this website. He's piss-scared of the BOI, and wants no part of any discussion forum in which he doesn't have editorial control.

Having read some of his threads over on TeguTalk, it's fairly sickening how many people are able to convince themselves that, as long as they're not the ones getting screwed, his new business paradigm is somehow excusable. After having, in the past, so vehemently railed against those who were doing then, exactly what he's doing now, I guess he just finally decided that he wanted to see how the other half lives. However, enough with ranting about how worthless of an individual he really is. It's already abundantly clear.

Since you paid with a direct transfer from your bank account, have you contacted them? It's possible that you'd still be eligible for whatever buyer protection services that they have.

Originally Posted by todeyius

I really wish I had paid more attention to some of the negative posts I found about him before I first contacted him. There were just too many people sticking up for him. They made it sound like a few people were just emailing him every day asking for an update, so he was selective in answering them. Boy was I wrong.

From what I have seen, the problem seeing the handwriting on the wall clearly was not only that there were mindless yet vocal followers of Bobby, but if anyone on any forum disagreed with him, he would sometimes fly into a rage and attack them for what were reasonable, courteous questions.

Originally Posted by Ed Clark

Thanks Lucille didn't look there.

So I guess its 1 down with how many others hanging in the wind?

Ed, unless someone paid with a credit card or other form of recoverable funds I'm thinking they will all be SOL unless they want to purse legal avenues, but given that these were deposits that might not be an economically feasible choice.
I would think that if Bobby planned to make good, he would have stopped by and tried to make some kind of amends or notifications by now.

Originally Posted by Lucille

I would think that if Bobby planned to make good, he would have stopped by and tried to make some kind of amends or notifications by now.

I agree with you there he could have at least sent out emails to all the people that sent him deposits.even if it was only to say hey something has come up and I don't have the money to refund you right now so sorry I will tighten you up at a later date.

Spending deposits or payments before you ship the animal then hearing that your customer is satisfied is asking for trouble which Bobby Hill has found out.

Could somebody tell me if bobby hill is dead or what cause I paid for a b/w argentine tegu from him in January because he said they would sell out so i better think quick, they were born in July and he said he wasn't gonna send him until it is less than 90 degrees but it has been great weather for a while now and I've called him 1000 times and emailed him 10000 times and left him messages, this doesn't strike me as a good business man like everybody claims, I'm wondering if he died or just got me for 150bucks, please help me cuz I'm not a rich guy that can just throw away money like that,,,i have all proof that i paid 150, emails from him, i should have expected something cuz after i paid 2 payments of 75, he sent another twoteals paypal message wanting another 75.00 so i called him and asked what was going on and he said it was an accident.... also he is already taking deposits for 2013, is this legal,,,what he is doing is worrying about people that pay now because he wants there money but the people that already paid, he aint worried about, he already spent our money, we should have been first on the list.. thanks a lot and god bless
Chad P. from waco tx