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Old 10-23-2002, 08:10 PM   #1
Corey Sawyer
I do not know this gentlemen, I have never sold to him (as far as I can remember, he isnt in my address book), I have not purchased from him. As far as I know, I have had no contact with him before.

However he seems to be having fun blasting me for doing my job? My partner and I are contracted to sell animals for a Zoo in Europe and a Zoo in Egypt. My partner has been doing this for many years, without any problems.

Look at ANY thread on the BOI about me, all good posts, and then there is Ed's post.

He seems to think this is a joke, well this is my life and my life is no joke. Working with ainimals is ALL i do, and I enjoy it. I could not see me doing anything else.

Webslave, It is people like Ed which have made many dealers, stop using your site. I think you need to adjust your rules to protect dealers from people like Ed. Your site doesnt just serve the consumer, it serves us dealers too! and we generally appreciate it.

and yes Mr Nolen, I do sell a lot of leopard geckos, I porduced over 1000 of them this year. I have sold them to customers from Canada, to Malaysia. I accually have sold out this year (David Pollard bought the last 2 i had for sale, from my colony), I have been buying normals, carrot tails/tangerines and tremper albinos in bulk from other breeders, to meet the demands of my customers.
Old 10-23-2002, 08:26 PM   #2

Do you really think complaining about someone whom made a passing comment about you in another thread warrants your creating a new thread solely about this person?

Please cut and paste this message back in your own thread.   I'll be deleting it shortly as it is not appropriate.

And by the way, exactly how would I adjust my rules to protect dealers from people like Ed?  I am REALLY curious to hear your recommendations about this one.

That's the problem with freedom, isn't it?  Sometimes you have to put up with things other people say that don't agree with what you think.  Funny how that works.  So if I take away Ed's freedom to express his opinion, what keeps me from taking away yours as well?

Is there a full moon out?  Seems to me that a lot of people are going off the deep end with little provocation lately.  And if everyone dislikes this site so much and everyone has stopped using it, I do wish you two people remaining would stop hogging up all the bandwidth driving my stats up.

Old 10-23-2002, 08:48 PM   #3
Corey Sawyer
Look at the comments Ed is posting on my advertisements. How is a dealer suppose to do his job when someone is posted "Bull ####" below that dealer's advertisements?

I think you should adjust your classifieds section so others can not post on someone else's advertisements.
Old 10-23-2002, 10:17 PM   #4
Corey, need I remind you that those are *free* advertisements you are making on my site?  You are comfortable with the idea of whining and complaining about this to me?

To be perfectly honest, I am tickled pink to see all of these *dealers* whom have never paid a dime towards helping support this site be so quick to be judgemental and brimming with suggestions about how I should make this site better for them. &nbsp;And it does especially irk me (not&#33<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> that so many of the other *dealers* whom have not paid a dime towards advertising have left here, as you say.

So here you are claiming to be selling thousands of animals all over the world, even advertising hippos for some rather pricey figures, and you are complaining that this free service you are using is not perfect enough for you? &nbsp;And you have supported this site with how many paid banner ads?

Spare me.........
Old 10-23-2002, 11:00 PM   #5
Corey Sawyer
I do not currently have a website up, why would I need banner advertisements? Can you tell me that?

BTW I have offered you money and help for this site in the past.

And $10k for a hippo, is not a bad price.
Old 10-23-2002, 11:19 PM   #6
kim felts
i think the point is you cant have it all and whining to webslave is not a good idea..geesh..its not like he gets paid or anything for this drama.
how about $50.00 an email reading charge for upset people that need extra service..would it limit the amount of requests he gets i wonder? put a price on time and people will think twice about asking for extra.
Old 10-23-2002, 11:52 PM   #7
I am going to agree with the webslave on this one. The comment should really have been put under the original thread. &nbsp;I am not saying that Corey is in any way a bad dealer. &nbsp;BUT doing that much business, you should realize that over the internet, you will have to deal with idiots, especially when it comes to exotics. You can say thanks to all the bad dealers that have ripped people off and made it harder for people to sell over the internet. &nbsp;There are bad apples in every barrel, there is no use blaiming the webmaster for it. &nbsp;I do understand where you are coming from, though, look at all of the stuff I have had to deal with on the previous threads that were posted about me, and I have only had a couple of problems with people which I have tried to take care of, but I still have gotten a rash of crap anyways. You can't please everyone all the time.
Kevin Smith
Old 10-24-2002, 12:24 AM   #8
Corey Sawyer
I see your point, but its still BS that people can post "Bull SH*T" under my perfectly HONEST , legal and legitimate advertisements.

I mean how would the webslave feel if i went and put "BULL SH*T" under each one of this ads? Would something get done about it then?

You wont find anyone who has purchased animals from me, and were disatisfied with them. I have always offered my "Buy back" gaurantee, guess how many animals I have bought back? Zero!
Old 10-24-2002, 12:45 AM   #9
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Yes you did.

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Posted: Mar. 20 2002,03:15

50 cent per 1000 sound about right, but I will look around tomorrow. I feel you should make atleast enough to cover your costs, so I will not be using your free advertising, but come april 30th Ill drop some money on some ad space.

If you need any help, Im willing to help for free. I have unix, nt, perl, C++ etc knowledge.

Keep up the good work.


Thank You,
Corey Sawyer
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However, that idea must have died on the vine. &nbsp;I never heard back from you about that ad.

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I mean how would the webslave feel if i went and put "BULL SH*T" under each one of this ads? Would something get done about it then?
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Go ahead and do it. &nbsp;Who do you think it would hurt, me or you? &nbsp;I wouldn't need to do a thing about it. &nbsp;I have enough confidence in my reputation that I don't have to sweat it if someone does something like that. &nbsp;All you have done here is kick up a fuss and call more attention to this guy then he ever could have done on his own.

Your point is that I should delete anyone's message that has the audacity to question you. &nbsp;And why should I do that? &nbsp;What makes what you have to say more important than someone else's statements? &nbsp;I should automatically assume that you are as pure as the driven snow?

I left the capability for people to add replies to ads for a reason. &nbsp;Certainly there are going to be cases where someone might post an ad that potential buyers might need to be warned about. &nbsp;Certainly doing that RIGHT at the ad itself would be a real good idea. &nbsp;Wouldn't you agree?

Are you saying that you think it is best that I not give people that extra bit of protection? Again, what makes your wishes carry greater weight than anyone else's?
Old 10-24-2002, 12:48 AM   #10
Corey, read this carefully, because I think you are still missing the point. &nbsp;If Webslave censors one guy, just one guy, then this website loses its integrity. &nbsp;It has nothing to do with you or some shmuck writing bad stuff about you. &nbsp;If what this guy says is false, ask him to post proof. &nbsp;If I saw one of your adds, and Ed writes at the bottom that your hippos always arrive with diarhea(sp), you say it is false, that you have never dealt with Ed, and ask for proof, and Ed never provides it, I am going to think Ed is full of crap. &nbsp;Most tohers probably would too. &nbsp;Handle it in a professional manner. &nbsp;Ed makes an accusation, ask for proof. &nbsp;Don't complain to the person who runs the site. &nbsp;Handle it like an adult, in a professional manner, an no matter what Ed says, it won't hurt you that much, or might even boost your rep.

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