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Old 12-13-2011, 05:04 PM   #1
allreptiles1966
what do 2 supers make

Hello
can someone help me out a bit?
I would like to know what 2 super sunglows make?Will they all the babies be supers?
How can i prove out a possible super sunglow?
Thanks in advance.
Rich
 
Old 12-13-2011, 05:13 PM   #2
AbsoluteApril
super x super = awesome

just kidding

a super sunglow x super sunglow should result in all super sunglows since each baby gets a copy of the hypo gene and albino gene from each parent.

IMO the best way to prove out if an animal is a super is to breed it to a normal, all the babies should be hypos. I am hopefully going to try proving out one of my poss supers next season.

hope this helps, I'm sure someone will chime in if my genetics are incorrect
 
Old 12-13-2011, 05:20 PM   #3
allreptiles1966
Appreciate it !
Bummer that's the only way to prove them out.So i take it that you cant tell from the
super x super babies ? I don't have any normal's either.
 
Old 12-13-2011, 05:42 PM   #4
AbsoluteApril
Well there is a problem there... if they are both possibles you would know that neither proved out if you ended up getting normals in the litter; however, if one is a super and the other is a hypo then all the babies would still be hypos since they are getting a hypo gene from the super... so you woudln't know if they were both supers or not since you cannot tell a super from a 'normal' hypo just by looks.
 
Old 12-13-2011, 07:23 PM   #5
AbsoluteApril
ps - I'd love to see photos of them!
 
Old 12-13-2011, 08:42 PM   #6
crotalusadamanteus
Another good reason to prove them out with normals, instead of with each other is, they're both Albino, and Albino x Albino pairings often time result in undesirable outcomes.

Best as I can tell, April is spot on.
 
Old 12-13-2011, 09:13 PM   #7
allreptiles1966
Is there a need to prove out a possible super?Whats the benefit of a super?
I also wont be breeding the 2 sunglows together.I just was asking to see if there was another way to prove them without using a normal.I thought maybe using 2 supers would make something different,although i never seen an ad of any using 2 supers.
I use hets to make my sunglows.I would not be happy making deformed babies.I had 3 kink tails last year that i had to deal with.I kept 1 that wasnt as bad,he is a pretty nice hypo and growing well.He wont be a breeder,just a pet.
 
Old 12-13-2011, 09:18 PM   #8
bear
the benefit of a super is that it produces all hypo offspring when bred to a normal.
 
Old 12-13-2011, 09:19 PM   #9
crotalusadamanteus
Supers are worth a little more, but mostly, they're worth a LOT more when it comes to planning a breeding. You KNOW 100% of the babies WILL get a Hypo gene AND Albino gene, IF it's a PROVED Super. With a Normal Sunglow, you can only guarantee the Albino gene will pass to all offspring, and about half the litter gets a Hypo gene, instead of all of them.
 
Old 12-13-2011, 09:21 PM   #10
crotalusadamanteus
Use a Normal Het Albino, and you can still prove or disprove the Hypo part, plus get some Albinos and Sunglows from the litter.
 

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