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Old 06-05-2015, 09:26 PM   #1
bcr229
FBI anti-terror official calls on tech firms to 'prevent encryption above all else'

Nope, having a zone of privacy that is outside of the reach of law enforcement is not very concerning at all. Law enforcement wanting to intrude on my privacy is.

FBI anti-terror official calls on tech firms to 'prevent encryption above all else'

When communication goes through encrypted channels, rather than in public, the FBI has a hard time intercepting it

The FBI has again waded into the debate around encryption, with the bureau’s assistant director of counterterrorism telling the US congress that tech companies should “prevent encryption above all else”.

Michael Steinbach, speaking at a hearing before the House Homeland Security Committee, explained how the the FBI uses technology to track and intercept supporters of Isis in the Middle East and elsewhere.

When Isis supporters communicate using social media, it’s easy for law enforcement to intercept: in one recent incident, the USAF boasted of “a post on social media to bombs on target in less than 24 hours”.

But when the communication is done through encrypted channels, rather than in public, the FBI and others have a much harder time intercepting it. That led Steinbach to appeal to the companies building encryption products.

“There are 200-plus social media companies. Some of these companies build their business model around end-to-end encryption,” Steinbach said.

“When a company, a communications company or a ISP or social media company elects to build in its software encryption, end-to-end encryption, and leaves no ability for even the company to access that, we don’t have the means by which to see the content”, he added.

“When we intercept it, we intercept encrypted communications. So that’s the challenge: working with those companies to build technological solutions to prevent encryption above all else.

“We are striving to ensure appropriate, lawful collection remains available.”

Steinbach insisted that he wasn’t asking for a “back door” to be built into encryption products, telling legislators that “we’re not looking at going through a back door or being nefarious.”

But security experts have long argued that the nature of encryption is such that there can be no middle ground between encryption which is unbreakable to all, including law enforcement, or encryption which contains some sort of flaw that can be used by anyone who knows of its existence, whether or not they are law enforcement.

An increasing number of communications products have “end-to-end” encryption, meaning even the company that produces the software can’t break the encryption on messages sent between its customers. Apple’s iMessage network and Facebook’s WhatsApp both use end-to-end encryption, for instance, while Google’s competing Hangouts product does not.

Steinbach’s comments echo those of his boss, FBI director James Comey, who in March asked Congress to pass a law that would force tech firms to create a backdoor in any tool that uses encryption.

“Tech execs say privacy should be the paramount virtue,” Comey said then, “When I hear that I close my eyes and say try to image what the world looks like where paedophiles can’t be seen, kidnapper can’t be seen, drug dealers can’t be seen.”

“To have a zone of privacy that’s outside the reach of law is very concerning,” Comey added.

In May, Apple, Google and other tech firms wrote an open letter to the Obama administration urging it to preserve strong encryption against pressure from agencies like the FBI.

The letter argued that “strong encryption is the cornerstone of the modern information economy’s security,” and that the government should “fully support and not undermine efforts to create encryption standards [nor] in any way subvert, undermine, weaken or make vulnerable” commercial software.
 
Old 06-06-2015, 12:07 AM   #2
WebSlave
Sure, government needs to break the back of yet another USA industry and send people looking for effective encryption to Chinese developers.....
 
Old 06-06-2015, 09:45 AM   #3
bcr229
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Sure, government needs to break the back of yet another USA industry and send people looking for effective encryption to Chinese developers.....
No need, the latest TrueCrypt install is still available if you know where to look, and it's free.
 
Old 06-06-2015, 10:00 AM   #4
E.Shell
Nice to have the capability.

When the unwarranted surveillance stuff first came to light, several friends and I started using encryption to add a Bible passage to our routine emails, usually something about cutting stuff off that offends thee and how one will reap what they sow. Not especially religious, but if they're going to bother to crack it, they might as well read something worthwhile.

On a related note, we are fooling around with ham radio transmitted email nets and I'm trying to learn the software now. This is a way to establish reasonably efficient commo in the event of a web failure. One cannot legally transmit encrypted messages at this time, but plain text is getting routine among those who have bothered to learn. Baud rates are slow, but the message gets through.
 
Old 06-06-2015, 11:36 AM   #5
WebSlave
I guess I would like to see where the US Constitution gives the US government a RIGHT to access all correspondence between citizens (meaning, we the people).

This is a perfect example of the tradeoff between freedom and "security".
 
Old 06-06-2015, 08:29 PM   #6
E.Shell
When I say "nice to have the capability", I mean it is nice to have encryption capability, especially when it can also be applied to independent (off the grid) transmissions. There are several popular peer-to-peer digital modes (PSK31) and there is also a way to get back into the internet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winlink).

This whole surveillance issue we face is insane. First, the .guv presumes it has a right and even a duty to routinely inspect your private information, just in case... Then they lie about not doing it, then rationalize when exposed. Because they have the technology to intercept your data, they say you should have no expectation of privacy with electronic commo, and the pretzel logic is that it is therefore legal to intercept anything they can because you have no expectation of privacy and that makes it not private. Then they make it sound like anyone who is concerned about blatant, illegal overreach must have something to hide.
 

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