International Reptile Conservation Foundation IRCF

Originally Posted by lillyorchid

both States

There are 4 states involved, I am contacting 3 of them, Michelle has contacted several as well.
Massachusetts- Where Michelle resides
California- Where the IRCF registered
Arizona- Where the IRCF has a place of business and where the raffle took place
Florida- Where Ty, the organizer of the raffle, resides

I agree cashing that check would leave you potentially liable for any unknowns and it wouldn't suprised me if Ty is behind this as well, knowing there's some type of legal implication if you cash it, and are setting a trap. The fact that it isn't legal inYour state and the fact that you would technically be compensated in full as far as the raffle was concerned, may be enough for a lazy judge to throw the case out. If you do have an attorney and he tells you it's safe to cash without researching for at least a day or two I wouldn't take the advice either I can only imagine how much time you and Lucille have spent researching and to throw it away on a technicality would be painful to watch.

Originally Posted by Dro B

I agree cashing that check would leave you potentially liable for any unknowns and it wouldn't suprised me if Ty is behind this as well, knowing there's some type of legal implication if you cash it, and are setting a trap. The fact that it isn't legal inYour state and the fact that you would technically be compensated in full as far as the raffle was concerned, may be enough for a lazy judge to throw the case out. If you do have an attorney and he tells you it's safe to cash without researching for at least a day or two I wouldn't take the advice either I can only imagine how much time you and Lucille have spent researching and to throw it away on a technicality would be painful to watch.

Ty prob thought I'd cash it seeing that he had stated that I "needed the money"
But I'm not a sucker.
Well I take that back I was suckered into a scam/fraud once ;/

Originally Posted by Dro B

I agree cashing that check would leave you potentially liable for any unknowns and it wouldn't suprised me if Ty is behind this as well, knowing there's some type of legal implication if you cash it, and are setting a trap. The fact that it isn't legal inYour state and the fact that you would technically be compensated in full as far as the raffle was concerned, may be enough for a lazy judge to throw the case out. If you do have an attorney and he tells you it's safe to cash without researching for at least a day or two I wouldn't take the advice either I can only imagine how much time you and Lucille have spent researching and to throw it away on a technicality would be painful to watch.

The main, perhaps only, problem, if the check is cashed, is that it would be viewed as Michelle's acceptance/agreement of a settlement.

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Wow, I've been keeping a pretty neutral opinion of IRCF since I believe it was Ty's actions that got them sucked into this. But that letter they wrote has me NOT liking they way they are acting. They still want to claim it's all out of their hands and they aren't involved? Well, state courts and the IRS may have different opinions on that and what a crummy way to treat someone who has been screwed over by their benefactor.

SHE WON THE RAFFLE! Why does not only Ty, but now IRCF think they can simply award the prize, or not, based on their own personal whims? Like someone said, I would love to see them win at a table in vegas and be told "I don't like you. Here's your money back, but you don't get to keep the prize you won". As far as I'm concerned, IRCF has gone from a sort of bystander to a full participant with that letter and the choices they are making. I think they are going to get some unpleasant legal and tax scrutiny, and I'm not very sympathetic anymore. Doing good overall is not carte blanche to step on other people when it suits you.

Originally Posted by tlmoon

Wow, I've been keeping a pretty neutral opinion of IRCF since I believe it was Ty's actions that got them sucked into this. But that letter they wrote has me NOT liking they way they are acting. They still want to claim it's all out of their hands and they aren't involved? Well, state courts and the IRS may have different opinions on that and what a crummy way to treat someone who has been screwed over by their benefactor.

SHE WON THE RAFFLE! Why does not only Ty, but now IRCF think they can simply award the prize, or not, based on their own personal whims? Like someone said, I would love to see them win at a table in vegas and be told "I don't like you. Here's your money back, but you don't get to keep the prize you won". As far as I'm concerned, IRCF has gone from a sort of bystander to a full participant with that letter and the choices they are making. I think they are going to get some unpleasant legal and tax scrutiny, and I'm not very sympathetic anymore. Doing good overall is not carte blanche to step on other people when it suits you.

Well said