Ty park/ ty lizards FL

Originally Posted by Black Adder

Yes I was removed from the group and blocked within 30 minutes of posting..lol
I think that on its own speaks volumes out Mr Park.
Needless to say I will NOT be attending his little shindig for all his lackeys.

If I go will you lol it is open to the public

Originally Posted by Sugarhedgie

If I go will you lol it is open to the public

That would be interesting!
I wonder if he would have us removed from the premises?

Prob because he says it's open to the public and we know he doesn't keep his word. Lol

Originally Posted by Casey Hulse

Whether you agree, or disagree, this type of comment/insult will most likely prevent any type of debate on this subject and possibly any other post. I still think the BOI works better if both sides of an argument can feel free to post their opinion with out the fear of being ridiculed by what may appear to be the "majority". Fresno tortoise did not really insult anyone, but was insulted for posting. I am sure I will most likely be insulted for posting in his defense.
I am surprised and disappointed that Lucille is name calling, I thought we agreed that was not needed?

Some posts deserve to be ridiculed.

Originally Posted by Casey Hulse

Whether you agree, or disagree, this type of comment/insult will most likely prevent any type of debate on this subject and possibly any other post. I still think the BOI works better if both sides of an argument can feel free to post their opinion with out the fear of being ridiculed by what may appear to be the "majority". Fresno tortoise did not really insult anyone, but was insulted for posting. I am sure I will most likely be insulted for posting in his defense.
I am surprised and disappointed that Lucille is name calling, I thought we agreed that was not needed?

agree, disagree, debate, argument, ridiculed, opinion, majority, all pointless words casey the OP was not given her prize its really just THAT simple please try and keep up and stay on topic.

Originally Posted by thomas davis

agree, disagree, debate, argument, ridiculed, opinion, majority, all pointless words casey the OP was not given her prize its really just THAT simple please try and keep up and stay on topic.

Talk about pointless? That is the problem with people like you, everything is black and white. She was offered a tegu, she insisted on more info. she was given a deadline, she wanted more info, deadline passed, she wants more info. tegu gone, she wants more info.

Originally Posted by Casey Hulse

Talk about pointless?

In discussing your additions to this thread, we're doing just that - talking about that which is pointless.

We'll just ignore the fact that your "tegu gone" statement is pointless, since he was never able to get it in the first place. It's wrong for someone to want to know an animal's origin and genetic lineage? It's not shady as hell, that Ty Park refused to supply this information? There's anything about his handling of this situation that is even remotely admirable, or even right?

Despite your desperation to make it seem otherwise, this situation really is much more black-and-white than you want to admit. The OP won a raffle that specified she'd receive one of two prizes; OP received absolutely nothing. Yes, it's that simple.

Originally Posted by Casey Hulse

Talk about pointless? That is the problem with people like you, everything is black and white. She was promised a Ty Park tegu, she was offered a undocumentedtegu, she insisted on more info. Ty refused, and she was given a deadline, she still wanted more info, Ty still refused, deadline passed, she still wants more info. Ty still refuses. tegu gone, she wants what she was promised.

Edited for accuracy......all fixed......as you were.

Originally Posted by Casey Hulse

Talk about pointless? That is the problem with people like you, everything is black and white. She was offered a tegu, she insisted on more info. she was given a deadline, she wanted more info, deadline passed, she wants more info. tegu gone, she wants more info.

Typically I agree that the bashing back and forth clouds the resolution more than helps HOWEVER, your outline above is very biased. What I see happening is Tyler created a contract by "accepting donations" on his behalf to a non profit organization. This contract was for a specific animal that would be produced by him, and also had a clause stating what would happen in the case this animal is not available. He then negated the contract, and feels that he gets to bully the other side into submission. He broke the contract, she had no obligation to accept alterations to the contract after her money was accepted. That's not how business works, and any successful business person, such as himself, would be well aware that the behavior that followed is unethical and inappropriate. He hoped that his minions would bully her in to submission, and I for one am thankful and impressed that it hasn't.

I am a big fan of playing devils advocate, however I don't see another way this could even be viewed. All the arguments are "She didn't accept what he offered so she is greedy", that's insanity. All she wants from him is for him to adhere to the contract as HE declared it, with contingency stipulations and all. He proved his word can't be trusted, Michelle has been upfront and very open with all the information requested of her. Again, not saying we should blindly grab pitch forks and go after Tyler... but I don't believe any of us are blindly coming to this conclusion. We did so with the information made available to us, and the fact Tyler has been shown to use bullying tactics and lie when it suits him doesn't make me want to stretch my imagination to a place where his logic would make sense, even if it could stretch that far.

Stay tough Michelle.

Originally Posted by Casey Hulse

Talk about pointless? That is the problem with people like you, everything is black and white. She was offered a tegu, she insisted on more info. she was given a deadline, she wanted more info, deadline passed, she wants more info. tegu gone, she wants more info.

I'll say it again. I was offered a tegu from an undesclosed friend that didn't exist. He couldn't get them

He NEVER offered me a t+ he produced or the money. Donyes it is blavk and white
I was scammed out of my prize that I won according to Ty's raffle terms.