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04-19-2009, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by KNOBTAIL
is someone to represent him in all transactions.. Its amazing how someone can run into so much complications over a simple transaction whether sold or traded or bought...
I wonder if there is some dark force that Dan seems to associate himself with knowingly or unknowingly . Its apparent that his business dealings really need to be watched carefully..
There are people in this world who continuously screw up.. He is one of them, its just unfortunate for the herp industry that he ended up in this vocation.
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Jerry, I thought the same thing. Although Dan can no longer speak here, wherever he goes, if he had an intermediary, a mouthpiece, as it were, his business would vastly improve, I think. Someone to translate the abusive, insulting language he uses and replace it with customer service, someone who checks that claims made by him are in fact the real thing.
Unfortunately, I don't think that is a realistic plan, I don't think he could find such a person. For me, the best choice is avoidance of any business dealings with him, because there isn't anything sold that is worth putting up with his insults if anything goes wrong and I wanted a replacement/refund. Who needs it? The herp world is pretty competitive right now, there's not much he has that you can't find elsewhere.
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04-19-2009, 08:21 PM
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I don't think that muzzling the abusive language solves the fact he keeps doing things like switching animals for different ones pictured(or missexing them). Even if he was nice as pie, it was still not the same snake agreed upon, and unless he was saying he would swap it back, it's still bad business.
The abusive language just makes it more obvious that you wouldn't want to do business with him agian.
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04-19-2009, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by redcarpet101
Randal, Maybe I can help you with another side of the story since I was the one who physically did the trade with Dan. I received a call from Ray yesterday morning asking me if I would take his Krait to Dan so he could swap it for a Monocled. I used one of my Midwest Bags to transport the Krait, so when I meet Dan I wanted to put the Monocled in the bag I brought, plus I wanted to see the Snake before I took back to Ray. Dan said he didn't want to take it out of the bag. I asked him why and he said because he didn't want to bag it again. I told he He doesn't have to worry about that because I will handle it. Now that I think about it was a little strange for him not to want to bag a Monocled when I've seen him bag Mambas and such on numerous occasions. I gave the Monocled a good look over and thought it looked a little different from the Pic Ray had shown me a few days ago. I just looked at the Pic briefly when Ray showed it to me, but I did remember white speckling. I asked Dan, I thought this thing had more white speckling on it. Dan said, when I took the photo it was puffing and flattening its body. I assumed the color change was due to growth or lighting of the photo, but I really never studied the photo. I told Dan that I wanted to probe the snake before I take it back to Ray. He said, you don't need to, because I tubed it and probed it myself and I'm positive it's a female. I told him I was going to probe it anyway. when I lifted the tall you could see it was a male. I said Dan this looks like a male, and he replied again said, I myself probed it and it can't be a male. Needless to say I almost lost the probe it went in so deep. Dan said you popped it by using such a small probe. By this time I knew he was BSing me. Dan grabbed a bigger probe and did it for himself and he to almost lost the probe in the snake. I said well I need to call Ray and tell he. Dan insisted that he call Ray. I heard him telling Ray it was the same snake, but just sexed wrong. Dan handed the phone over to me and Ray told me to go ahead and do the trade. I brought the snake home and right away Ray could tell that it wasn't the same snake. He proceed to call Dan. I could not hear Dan but I could hear Ray, and Dan was insisting that it was the same snake and that he only had one Monocled so it had to be the same snake.
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Thanks for your side Danny.
Randal Berry
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04-19-2009, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by COBRAMAN
Randal, I am sorry to have to accuse Dan of lying (again), but what he told you is not true. When I called him he continued telling me that it is the same snake, and that he probed it. Then when I pointed out the differences, he started screaming and yelling and hung up. I know he is your buddy, and you want to be able to believe him, but he has proven time after time that he is not able to be truthfull. He WAS an aquaintance of mine (and a customer) but he has always lied to me. I just would never have thought he would deliver the wrong snake (knowing I was specific about wanting the exact on pictured) and then attempt to lie about it numerous times.
If I considered that Dan could not come defend himself, I would have thought twice about starting the thread. I am handling the matter between Dan and I through other means now, and am not trying to get anyone to pick sides or bash Dan. I just wanted to share my first experience to warn others that think he would not do the same to them because they know him on a more personal level. Dan assured me that the snake he would bring to my room mate was a female and the exact one pictured in his ad. He lied about both issues, and did not even want my friend to take it out of the bag, much less probe it. I told him (when he and my friend called me after probing it) that I can live with it being a male, as long as it was the exact snake in the pictures on his ad. Dan assured me that it was, yet told my room mate (who does not have as much experience with cobras) that the lack of white speckling and the white bands are because "the one in his ad pictures was flattened out".
Anyway, since he can't come on and defend himself, we are kicking a dead horse. I will handle the matter through other means.
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Fair enough Ray.
Randal Berry
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04-19-2009, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by lanceheads
Thanks for your side Danny.
Randal Berry
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Originally Posted by lanceheads
Fair enough Ray.
Randal Berry
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Way to fold on a friend like a cheap suit.
But then...on a zoo curators salary...I reckon you've never had your hands on the really good stuff.
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04-19-2009, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by critical bill
Way to fold on a friend like a cheap suit.
But then...on a zoo curators salary...I reckon you've never had your hands on the really good stuff.
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WHAT????
I was told one side (by Dan) Danny posted the other side, I thanked him for it. Is that folding on Dan? Hello?
Oh, BTW, I Havethe really good stuff!
Best,
Randal Berry
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04-19-2009, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by lanceheads
Oh, BTW, I Havethe really good stuff!
Best,
Randal Berry
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And you're sure its not a dress? I'm thinking dress, anyone else think its a dress?
Dress it is.
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04-19-2009, 10:56 PM
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Carefull Chuck!
The last time you responded to one of my posts, you were banned for 30 days!
Thread lightly dude! LOL!
Randal Berry
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04-20-2009, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by critical bill
And you're sure its not a dress? I'm thinking dress, anyone else think its a dress?
Dress it is.
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Chuck, please explain how this post relates to the topic of this thread. Your future here depends on the answer I get. I've got my hand on the flusher......
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04-20-2009, 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by WebSlave
Chuck, please explain how this post relates to the topic of this thread. Your future here depends on the answer I get. I've got my hand on the flusher......
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I'm doing that now sir. My PM will be in your inbox momentarily.
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