Stanley Whitt

Stanley,

The fact that your story seems to have changed again(didn't you say in an e-mail or a post here that the pic of the dead dragon was just taken, and he died back in January? If not, my mistake.)interests me.  
The holes in your story are very easy for any intelligent person to see.  They don't need that 4.OOPS GPA of yours to see it.  
First, the dragon dies of starvation because A shipment of crickets didn't arrive on time(please).  We all know this is what you stated since you attacked wormman.com and tried to weasel money out of Ken Chiarella for "killing" your dragon.  Then you later claim that the animal "died suddenly for no reason" along with two others.  Any questions?  Did you miss THAT hole in your story?  If not, just ask and I will say it...very...slooooowlyyy.
Now, you say the dragon only just died before you took that picture.  He looks pretty stiff to me, and I have had dead dragons before(unfortunately reptiles even die on those of us that feed them), and never once seen a freshly dead one(or one even dead for a couple hours) with its head held up stiffly as this one appears to be doing.  He had been dead for a while when you took that picture.  
Also, another MAJOR hole in your story, try to follow this one.  I have experience breeding bearded dragons(as do many of us posting) and have hatched lots of eggs from them(a few hundred).  Never ONCE did I have an egg take five months to hatch.  The LONGEST it ever took was 60 days.  That is being incubated at 83-85 degrees F, the standard temps for beardies.  What were your eggs cooking at?  65?  That is an overly excessive long time and just makes no sense.  If there are other beardie breeders out there that have had them take this long to hatch into healthy babies, please let me know.
As far as coming ot your house...Do you live in GA?  Anywhere near Atlanta?  Do I need to come armed or with a crew?  You asked if I was up to the challenge of coming to your home.  What is the challenge?  Are you going to attack me with that dead dragon?  I have no intention of coming to your home.
I think you know by now that I and many others here will never send you our business, nor the business of anyone we know.  You have already shown that you do not know or apparently care enough to find another food source for your dragons.  And if you are in GA pal, there are TONS of places.  Hell, if you are pretty much anywhere in the southeast US it is NOT hard to find cricket suppliers.  You just don't appear to have even tried.  You have also shown that you are sick by posting a picture of a DEAD animal to try and sell his babies.  So what if he is solid WHITE?  You still posted a picture of a DEAD animal that was obviously starved and malnourished to try to sell his offspring.


And on a sidenote, kkiggs, if you ever want to follow Stanley's excellent example of how not to sell dragons, I have a dead crested gecko in my freezer I would be happy to take pics of so you can sell your babies and mine that are due to hatch in another 8 months from her. &nbsp; <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>

The dragon was holding his head up in the pic. &nbsp;I don't know about you, but anytime I have ever seen a dead animal, it didn't have the strength to hold its head up like that. &nbsp;Unless you positioned it, and then took a picture of it, which would make it even worse.

Jimi,

read back a couple of posts, he admitted the animal was dead when he took that photograph.

~Just for the record....anytime ANY of my dragons "just picked at greens" or would only eat one thing...I figured they were not feeling well and I had them checked and treated. spam_Call me crazy but that's not only experience but care and concern

~A dragon who will eat crickets....will also eat mealworms, waxworms, superworms, etc. Lost count of how many dragons have passed through my home..but I never had one who would eat only crickets. spam_In fact, dragons will eat chicken! There are just so many options if you don't have crickets handy and you are isolated deep in the boondocks with no means of getting to a petstore and no one to make the stop for you and no other feeder dealers in the whole wide world and no insects available outside....oops, sorry, I was just trying to imagine all the reasons (excuses) one could use for STARVING their pets.

~I am still a bit confused..all these stories, ya know??? spam_Was the dead dragon in the picture the one that WormMan killed?? spam_Or was that the one in the freezer? Or the one that died after the eggs were laid? Or the one that died and got spam_his pic taken right away? And how about the 3rd one? spam_Do we have a photo of that? spam_Could this one have died with his head propped up on his empty dish? &nbsp;Do we have ANY photos of healthy adults from this person? spam_Or just his "WORD"? spam_How did that dead dragon keep such bright colors after he died? spam_When dragons are sick or dying..don't they turn dark?? Even black?

{I have never had an adult dragon die ( No, Never. Just lucky, I guess. ), so I can only go by what I have read.}

I give up....this whole thing just turns my stomach.

here is an e-mail form stanley (nit) whitt


</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">No he is not the same dragon, and I do not have any dragons that are dying.
Also I have owned and sold around 1,000 bearded dragons. I have only had
3 adults and 2 babies that had just hatched out, died on me.
I have never had a dragon die from shipping, and I do not ship
babies out until they are at least 1 month old and I give a 7 day guaranty
on all animals. I have never had a dragon sent back to me; the only problem
I have had, was a adult female was not the same color as in the pic when she
came out of the box. I got a call back 3 days later telling me she looked
great. So I guess with that track record I do look like a P.O.S.. The orange
male in the pic is dead I did not try to hide that fact, because I am a
honest person. I had him for a little over a week before he died. the person
I bought him from only guarantied live arrival. I did e-mail him telling him
that the male died, and since it had been longer than what he had guarantied
them for than I was not asking for any money back from him. He e-mailed me
back saying the only thing he could think of that happened was that the male
had a heart attack, from stress caused by the shipping, heat difference from
what I keep my dragons and what he keeps his dragons at (I keep mine around
120 on one side and 75 on the other), and him being in a new place and
trying to breed. &nbsp;I kept him with the 2 females that came in with him and
that were kept with him at the other guys place. I quarantined them all
together; and the 2 females are still alive. The only good side to this
story is the female laid 47 eggs from him. When I sell the babies I can
replace him.

&nbsp; &nbsp; On a side not. One of your fellow hate mailers e-mailed me saying that
he hopes I do not sell another more reptiles, and hopes me and my family
gets
cancer and or HIV and die. Wasn't that nice of him. I take that as a treat
on me, My wife, and my 7 month old daughter.
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Stanley,
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;No need to take the challenge when YOU told us your animals died because of the cricket situation, you said YOU didn't feed them cause you had no crickets. &nbsp; &nbsp;No one is making up stories except you, we are just trying to keep all yours straight and we get lost in YOUR ring of lies. &nbsp;Stanley, please do all of us a favor and disappear.


Torie Miller

~I just thought of something. &nbsp;Do you think Mr. Whitt would give us the name, etc. of the person he got the "dead" dragon from? &nbsp;I'd love to know how much of THAT story is BS...Wouldn't you?

Got two words for Stanley: BAIT SHOP.

Don't tell me you're in GA and can't find a bait shop at least.

Everyone else has given a good summary of what a total nit you are, but I thought I'd toss that in.

So far, the reasons for the dragon dying have been:

1. It's all worm-man's fault b/c Stanley is too stupid and lazy to go get other food and the dragon won't eat greens. &nbsp;Let's see....can't find live food? Dragon dies in two weeks without eating? Not likely if it's healthy in the first place.

2. Oh, no, it mysteriously died after it was shipped. &nbsp;Maybe shipping stress and the higher temps Stan keeps his dragons at (Note, he states 120 basking in his e-mail, which is excessive for adult dragons. 125F will cause brain damage and death.) led to a heart attack? &nbsp;Well, aside from that making his attack on Worm Man an outright lie and libel, it also makes him a freaking retard, b/c any dragon that died of stress that easily as an adult should have been sent for a necropsy. &nbsp;It likely died for another reason, IF this story is true, and that can include some nasty stuff that can be passed to the babies such as coccidia. (Not very likely that dragon's babies as was pointed out, my longest incubation time was 71 days at a low 80 degrees, and right on 60 at 83-84 degrees.)

OK, show me the assumptions Stanley. &nbsp;BOTH of those cases are assuming you've told the truth in one or the other, &nbsp;and absolutely no conclusions other than that you're an unethical prick can be drawn from either one.

We don't need to come to your house to see the rest of your collection to know what you are, it's written plain as day on the face of that dead dragon in your ad.

But I'll make a compromise: You claim to be in the military. &nbsp;Send me a message with the contact info for your CO and I'll have someone sent over to check this out. &nbsp; I won't say I haven't seen some stupid NCOs in the Army, but if you really are an NCO, you take the cake for stupid. &nbsp;Points must've been pretty low when you got your stripes, Stan.

Is this fool still around?? Sheesh, I go away for a few days and he is as ignorant as ever. That showed both low class and sheer stupidity posting a pic of a dead dragon in any manner other than a rememberance post. Stanley, it is because of people like yourself that so many places are banning reptiles. I wish no harm to your family, but I hope you get out of reptiles. Fast.

Stan,
First off I want to ask you to answer all of the questions that all of us have been asking you. &nbsp;What about when you said that you clearly stated you posted that the dragon was dead in the post, but I clearly showed that this was not so. &nbsp;There are tons and tons of questions that we've asked that you have ignored. &nbsp;If you truly want to get your name back, you HAVE to answer these. &nbsp;I honestly don't think it's possible for you to clear your name. &nbsp;
Stan, you have to realize that it really doesn't matter what your dragons are like now. &nbsp;You have destroyed yourself. &nbsp;I really hope your dragons are in good condition now. &nbsp;I hope this thread has saved some lives. &nbsp;But, what I really hope is that you get in trouble for this, and you are never allowed to keep another reptile. &nbsp;Although, I doubt this will happen. &nbsp;Maybe your reputation is at least harmed enough and you have enough of a bad taste in your mouth that you decide to get rid of your dragons and to concentrate on your family and the rest of your life.
Lucas Denning