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Old 10-16-2017, 10:09 PM   #1
Roscoe09
Question Is this Illegal?

I been thinking into the future just a bit. Next summer I am going to be traveling towards California to visit family. I would like to maybe catch a few Coleonyx variegatus. And I was wondering if this is illegal in the United States. I have looked it up but contradicting ideas stopped me from further investigation.
Thank you!!

-Chandler R
 
Old 10-16-2017, 10:10 PM   #2
Hlemunyon12
Everything is illegal in California
 
Old 10-16-2017, 10:46 PM   #3
Roscoe09
Okay, thanks. What about other states?
 
Old 10-16-2017, 10:49 PM   #4
Herpin Man
According to this, you can take two with a valid fishing license:
http://www.eregulations.com/californ...inland-waters/
 
Old 10-16-2017, 10:52 PM   #5
Hlemunyon12
I don’t want to be misleading about California but it is my understanding that they are very very strict when it comes to native species
 
Old 10-17-2017, 12:01 AM   #6
Helenthereef
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Originally Posted by Herpin Man View Post
According to this, you can take two with a valid fishing license:
http://www.eregulations.com/californ...inland-waters/
It's really interesting that you can take reptiles like this under a fishing licence - not the first place I would have thought to look.

It's a pretty extensive (and by no means exclusively aquatic) list:

Quote:

5.60. Reptiles.

(a) Only the following reptiles may be taken under the authority of a sportfishing license, subject to the restrictions in this section. No sportfishing license is required for the sport take of any rattlesnake, but bag and possession limits do apply. No reptiles shall be taken from ecological reserves designated by the commission in Section 630 or from state parks, or national parks or monuments.

(b) Limit: The limit for each of the species listed below is two, unless otherwise provided. Limit, as used in this section, means daily bag and possession limit.

(1) Painted turtle (Chrysemys picta): Limit: No limit.

(2) Pond slider (Trachemys) scripta): Limit: No limit.

(3) Spiny softshell (Apalone spinifera): Limit: No limit.

(4) Western banded gecko (Coleonyx variegatus), except San Diego banded gecko (Coleonyx variegatus abbotti): See Special Closure (f)(1)

(5) Desert iguana (Dipsosaurus dorsalis)

(6) Common chuckwalla (Sauromalus ater)

(7) Zebra-tailed lizard (Callisaurus draconoides)

(8) Desert spiny lizard (Sceloporus magister)

(9) Granite spiny lizard (Sceloporus orcutti)

(10) Western fence lizard (Sceloporus occidentalis): Limit: Species No. 10-14 have a limit of twenty-five (25) in the aggregate

(11) Common sagebrush lizard (Sceloporus graciosus): Limit: Species No. 10-14 have a limit of twenty-five (25) in the aggregate

(12) Common side-blotched lizard (Uta stansburiana): Limit: Species No. 10-14 have a limit of twenty-five (25) in the aggregate

(13) Western skink (Plestiodon skiltonianus): Limit: Species No. 10-14 have a limit of twenty-five (25) in the aggregate

(14) Desert night lizard (Xantusia vigilis), except Sierra night lizard (Xantusia (vigilis) sierrae): See Special Closure (f)(2): Limit: Species No. 10-14 have a limit of twenty-five (25) in the aggregate

(15) Long-tailed brush lizard (Urosaurus graciosus)

(16) Ornate tree lizard (Urosaurus ornatus)

(17) Baja California brush lizard (Urosaurus nigricaudus)

(18) Desert horned lizard (Phrynosoma platyrhinos)

(19) Pygmy short-horned lizard (Phrynosoma douglassii)

(20) Great Basin collared lizard (Crotaphytus bicinctores)

(21) Mearns’ rock lizard (Petrosaurus mearnsi)

(22) Baja California collared lizard (Crotaphytus vestigium)

(23) Long-nosed leopard lizard (Gambelia wislizenii)

(24) Gilbert’s skink (Plestiodon gilberti)

(25) Tiger whiptail (Aspidoscelis tigris)

(26) Southern alligator lizard (Elgaria multicarinata)

(27) Northern alligator lizard (Elgaria coerulea)

(28) Northern rubber boa (Charina bottae): See Special Closure (f)(3)

(29) Northern three-lined boa (Lichanura orcutti)

(30) Ring-necked snake (Diadophis punctatus), except Regal ring-necked snake (Diadophis punctatus regalis): See Special Closure (f)(4)

(31) Common sharp-tailed snakes (Contia tenuis)

(32) Forest sharp-tailed snake (Contia longicauda)

(33) Spotted leaf-nosed snake (Phyllorhynchus decurtatus)

(34) North American racer (Coluber constrictor)

(35) Coachwhip (Coluber flagellum), except San Joaquin Coachwhip (Coluber (Masticophis) flagellum ruddocki): See Special Closure (f)(5)

(36) Striped whipsnake (Coluber taeniatus)

(37) Striped racer (Coluber lateralis), except Alameda striped racer (whipsnake) (Coluber (Masticophis) lateralis euryxanthus): See Special Closure (f)(6)

(38) Western patch-nosed snake (Salvadora hexalepis), except coast patch-nosed snake (Salvadora hexalepis virgultea): See Special Closure (f)(7)

(39) Glossy snake (Arizona elegans), except California glossy snake (Arizona elegans occidentalis): See Special Closure (f)(8)

(40) Gophersnake (Pituophis catenifer): Limit: Four (4)

(41) California kingsnake (Lampropeltis californiae): Limit: Four (4)

(42) California mountain kingsnake (Lampropeltis zonata), except San Diego mountain kingsnake (Lampropeltis zonata pulchra) and San Bernardino mountain kingsnake (Lampropeltis zonata parvirubra): Limit: One (1). See Special Closure: (f)(9)

(43) Long-nosed snake (Rhinocheilus lecontei)

(44) Common gartersnake (Thamnophis sirtalis), except San Francisco gartersnake (Thamnophis sirtalis tetrataenia) and South Coast gartersnake (Thamnophis sirtalis spp.): See Special Closure (f)(10)

(45) Terrestrial gartersnake (Thamnophis elegans)

(46) Sierra gartersnake (Thamnophis couchii)

(47) Aquatic gartersnake (Thamnophis atratus)

(48) Northwestern gartersnake (Thamnophis ordinoides)

(49) Checkered gartersnake (Thamnophis marcianus)

(50) Western groundsnake (Sonora semiannulata)

(51) Western shovel-nosed snake (Chionactis occipitalis)

(52) Western black-headed snake (Tantilla planiceps)

(53) Smith’s black-headed snake (Tantilla hobartsmithi)

(54) Sonoran lyresnake (Trimorphodon lambda)

(55) California lyresnake (Trimorphodon lyrophanes)

(56) Desert nightsnake (Hypsiglena chlorophaea)

(57) Coast nightsnake (Hypsiglena ochrorhyncha)

(58) Western threadsnake (Rena humilis)

(59) Western diamond-backed rattlesnake (Crotalus atrox)

(60) Mohave rattlesnake (Crotalus scutulatus)

(61) Western rattlesnakes (Crotalus oreganus)

(62) Speckled rattlesnake (Crotalus mitchellii)

(63) Sidewinders (Crotalus cerastes)

(64) Panamint rattlesnake (Crotalus stephensi)

(65) Red diamond rattlesnake (Crotalus ruber): Limit: Zero (0)

(c) Open season: All year.

(d) Hours: Reptiles may be taken at any time of day or night.

(e) Methods of take:

(1) Reptiles may be taken only by hand, except as provided in subsections (e)(2) and (3) below, or by the following hand-operated devices:

(A) Lizard nooses.

(B) Snake tongs.

(C) Snake hooks.

(2) Rattlesnakes may be taken by any method.

(3) Turtles may be taken by hook and line. Fishing methods described in Section 2.00 apply to the take of spiny softshell turtles, slider turtles and painted turtles.

(4) It is unlawful to use any method or means of collecting that involves breaking apart of rocks, granite flakes, logs or other shelters in or under which reptiles may be found.

(f) Special Closures:

(1) No geckos (Coleonyx variegatus) may be taken in San Diego County south and west of Highway 79 to its junction with County Road S-2, and south and west of County Road S-2 to the eastern San Diego County border.

(2) No night lizards (Xantusia vigilis) may be taken in Kern County.

(3) No rubber boas (Charina bottae or Charina umbratica) may be taken in Kern, Los Angeles, Riverside, and San Bernardino counties.

(4) No ring-necked snakes (Diadophis punctatus) may be taken in San Bernardino and Inyo counties.

(5) No coachwhips (Coluber) flagellum) may be taken in the following counties: Alameda, Contra Costa, Fresno, Kern, Kings, Merced, Monterey, San Benito, San Joaquin, San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara, Stanislaus, and Tulare.

(6) No striped racers (Coluber) lateralis) may be taken in Alameda and Contra Costa counties.

(7) No patch-nosed snakes (Salvadora hexalepis) may be taken in the following counties: Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside, San Bernardino, San Diego, San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara, and Ventura.

(8) No glossy snakes (Arizona elegans) may be taken in the following counties: Alameda, Fresno, Imperial (west of Hwy 111), Kern, Los Angeles, Riverside (southwest of Hwy 111 and I-10), San Benito, San Bernardino (West of I-215 and Hwy 138), San Diego, San Joaquin, San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara, Santa Clara and Tulare.

(9) No California mountain kingsnakes (Lampropeltis zonata) may be taken in Imperial, Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside, San Bernardino, San Diego, and Ventura counties.

(10) No common gartersnakes (Thamnophis sirtalis) may be taken in San Mateo, Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside, San Diego, and Ventura counties.
 

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