Corn ID please

O.K. hybrid it is,I originally belived emoryi was a sub species,maybe it did change?It would be easier for an emoryi do breed a corn in the wild versus say, a cal king to a corn?

Originally Posted by Traci1

P. emoryi is a different species from P. guttatus, (not exactly sure when the taxonomy changed though)

I would like to know more about the taxonomy, too. I thought that corns were/are E.g.g. and the emory rats were E.g.e.

I'm not arguing the ethics of it or anything, and I agree with anyone who says that a mix of the two should be labeled/sold as such.

Anyone have any pics of there creams or butters?

Here's a couple of quick pics of one of my butters.

Now that's a beautiful butter thanks for sharing, Ok I could talk retics all day but corn morphs are a bit new to me, I like to blame my kids for getting me into corns, but the truth is I just like them, its funny I took home my first retic 19 years ago, and my first corn was last year lol.....PS what would I get if I bread my Male with a butter?

what would I get if I bread my Male with a butter?

100% Amel het for caramel.

Originally Posted by PaulSage

I would like to know more about the taxonomy, too. I thought that corns were/are E.g.g. and the emory rats were E.g.e.

I'm not arguing the ethics of it or anything, and I agree with anyone who says that a mix of the two should be labeled/sold as such.

Glad to know I'm not the only one who has fallen behind all these recent (well, relatively anyway) taxanomic changes . Not sure when, but they changed the new world? Elaphe to Pantherophis (corns and Bairds Rat), probably about the same time they changed Trans Pecos and Baja rat snakes to Bogertophis, and after they changed the Green Rat snake to Senticolis. The new world rats from Europe have remained the Elaphe. The change (from Elaphe) actually takes them back to the original or at least one of the earliest designations, Pantherophis circa 1766.

I did a little digging and found a picture of the Cream I used to have...

Originally Posted by reptilebreeder

Glad to know I'm not the only one who has fallen behind all these recent (well, relatively anyway) taxanomic changes . Not sure when, but they changed the new world? Elaphe to Pantherophis (corns and Bairds Rat), probably about the same time they changed Trans Pecos and Baja rat snakes to Bogertophis, and after they changed the Green Rat snake to Senticolis. The new world rats from Europe have remained the Elaphe. The change (from Elaphe) actually takes them back to the original or at least one of the earliest designations, Pantherophis circa 1766.

Thanks for the info. I've been wondering what the difference was and which was more "accurate".

Originally Posted by TripleMoonsExotic

I did a little digging and found a picture of the Cream I used to have...

I wish I was good with a camara, thank for the cool pic.