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02-23-2019, 07:41 PM
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#131
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A lot of what makes Fauna a community rather than a mere commercial site site comes from the BOI and the forums. While the risks inherent in running the BOI have been discussed at length, are there any additional risks/expenses connected with running the forums?
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02-23-2019, 07:46 PM
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#132
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Originally Posted by Pasodama
I can see doing away with some, or most?, forums but, honestly, I would hate to see all of them disappear.
Maybe you could just condense some of the separate forums into one. At least for a time? Then see how that goes.
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I will be keeping an eye on the discussion forums and do what seems prudent when the time comes.
Honestly though, does it really make much difference if 10 discussion forums are not being used, or a conglomeration of them merged all into one large forum still not being used? Seriously, some of those forums have been online here for nearly 17 years. Does anyone really believe they will suddenly turn around NOW at this late date?
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02-23-2019, 08:08 PM
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#133
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Originally Posted by WebSlave
Which might very well mean that all general discussion forums can go away as well
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Originally Posted by WebSlave
one large forum
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There's a big difference between zero and one, and the discussion non reptile forums have smaller than the BOI but persistent use.
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Originally Posted by WebSlave
I will be keeping an eye on the discussion forums and do what seems prudent when the time comes.
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Absolutely. The overwhelming majority of readers agree that you need to do what is best and most prudent according to your judgment, and I agree with that also.
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02-23-2019, 08:18 PM
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#134
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Originally Posted by Lucille
A lot of what makes Fauna a community rather than a mere commercial site site comes from the BOI and the forums. While the risks inherent in running the BOI have been discussed at length, are there any additional risks/expenses connected with running the forums?
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No, not that I am aware of. But it makes the site apparently too complex for some people, and is an obvious waste of screen real estate when loading the site to your browser. And obviously uses up server resources unnecessarily.
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02-24-2019, 02:21 AM
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#135
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Originally Posted by Lucille
There's a big difference between zero and one, and the discussion non reptile forums have smaller than the BOI but persistent use.
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Quite likely the way I would handle it is somewhat how I have stated I will handle the Chuck Kimmel's "What's Cooking?" Kitchen forum, in that if a couple of months go by without any posts in a particular forum, then I will consider it as dead wood and eliminate it from the site. Just taking a casual look around I can see several already that would be qualifying for that axe.
That sort of puts the burden on the membership to show me that a forum they wish to remain here actually does so by proving that it is being utilized.
That seems fair, doesn't it?
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02-24-2019, 07:11 AM
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#136
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Absolutely.
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02-24-2019, 09:29 AM
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#137
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Since I don't contribute, I can't see the boi anymore. But a day ago, I could. Now it's gone again and can only be read by those who have paid. Will it be kept up to read in the future so people will be able read if they aren't a contributor? That would be much appreciated especially to those like myself who have good feedback and have contributed in the past. It's fine that I can't add to it. Just want to be able to see. Not sure if this has been covered in this thread. Haven't read every page.
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02-24-2019, 10:49 AM
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#138
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Originally Posted by James L
But a day ago, I could. Now it's gone again and can only be read by those who have paid.
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Here you go James
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Originally Posted by WebSlave
FYI, for anyone who has noticed, I am changing permissions in the BOI forum whereby some days regular members and visitors can see thread topic lines, or both thread topic lines and thread content in the BOI. But posting by regular members will not be re-enabled at any time.
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02-24-2019, 12:24 PM
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#139
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Thank you, Robert
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02-24-2019, 07:22 PM
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#140
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Originally Posted by James L
Since I don't contribute, I can't see the boi anymore. But a day ago, I could. Now it's gone again and can only be read by those who have paid. Will it be kept up to read in the future so people will be able read if they aren't a contributor? That would be much appreciated especially to those like myself who have good feedback and have contributed in the past. It's fine that I can't add to it. Just want to be able to see. Not sure if this has been covered in this thread. Haven't read every page.
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Sorry, but no. By leaving the threads in the BOI visible, I would still be subject to the threats of lawsuits from people wanting posts about them removed. So it just points back to the original reason for this step: Too many people have stopped supporting the BOI with not only their contributions, but also with even their continued participation on this site. A lot of people, apparently like yourself, have stopped contributing here, and unfortunately this is the direct result.
The BOI has always been based on the premise that it had the support of the majority of the herp industry/hobby. Not only from a financial standpoint, but from the premise that the power of peer pressure would force "bad guys" to change their ways, or else die on the vine because their wrong doings made their business plan melt away under scrutiny by a substantial portion of their prospective customers. So it is not only the financial support lacking that makes this an unsound business plan for me, but it is also just as obvious that the BOI no longer will have the power to be effective without the numbers of people needed to provide effective peer pressure.
I doubt that this will turn around, unfortunately, even just based on what I have seen statistically since February 2, 2019. Which means, sadly, that on February 2, 2020, the BOI will be officially gone to everyone.
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