Fred Kick Misrepresented Animals, A thief to watch out for

In 08 we bought a female DH Sunglow Boa from New York Expo. We also purchased few BP's:a 08 male Hypo(one of the hottest I've seen and just had his first lock), a 08 Mojave 66% Hypo (breeding machine) and a 09 1.1 pair of black pastels. All are healthy eating great, will defiantly buy from him again... He has some really cool projects

Hope I don't get decapitated for having an positive buying experience

Jason or Cristina, first off you've got to sign your BOI posts with who ever is posting (harald just clued me in on that as Jess and I Had a very similar signature at the bottom.) And I would never berate someone for posting a good experience but its been said many times that good transactions are great but its how you handle the poor transactions and unhappy customers that counts the most! I'm truly glad you had a positve experience.

Originally Posted by hhmoore

Howard - I understand your anger & frustration - and they appear to be well founded (based on your story) - but I do want to address one statement. Given the current market price, $200 for a mojave is about right for wholesale. Now, I'm not going to get into the whole thing about people giving wholesale credit on others' animals while assigning retail value on their own in a trade (which is basically what this ended up as...but it didn't start out as a trade); but the only way he put it to you, so to speak, was sending you the wrong animals. On that, you are right on target...unfortunately, from what I have heard of the Kick Brothers/Reptile Addicts, you probably won't see much (if anything) in the way of compensation. I wish you the best in that struggle, though...and with the snakes you received.

not for females, its hard to find one under 250 most go for 300 or 350 actually.

Originally Posted by chongorojo

Jason or Cristina, first off you've got to sign your BOI posts with who ever is posting (harald just clued me in on that as Jess and I Had a very similar signature at the bottom.) And I would never berate someone for posting a good experience but its been said many times that good transactions are great but its how you handle the poor transactions and unhappy customers that counts the most! I'm truly glad you had a positve experience.

Very True...

Jason Rossi

Originally Posted by snakemansnakes

Believe me donna you are not missing anything. The last time I went in there Iwent back to the "reptile room" I had to pull an employee over and show at least 3 different cages with a deceased animal in it. Truly disturbing. I'm amazed that he is even still operating this @#%$- hole

3 is pretty ridiculous...I could understand a dead goldfish ,but not dead reptiles..Sounds like this guy needs to be locked up with no food or toilet,that way he could live like his animals do..

Originally Posted by Herp.Herp.Hooray

In 08 we bought a female DH Sunglow Boa from New York Expo. We also purchased few BP's:a 08 male Hypo(one of the hottest I've seen and just had his first lock), a 08 Mojave 66% Hypo (breeding machine) and a 09 1.1 pair of black pastels. All are healthy eating great, will defiantly buy from him again... He has some really cool projects

Hope I don't get decapitated for having an positive buying experience

I wont bash you for saying you had a good transaction..But,I could hardly say he is a good guy...The news stories are real,not made up.I highly doubt the 3 dead reptiles in the store was made up.I apologize and dont mean to call you out..But I would not do business with anyone who would buy from this guy...With all the GOOD breeders out there,its hard to believe anyone in good conscious would order from Mr.Kick...

I agree with james, we should not support those that make the herp comunity bad or miss treats their animals. Jasons join date looks to be around the same time he bought from him so I'm assuming he like I made a few purchases from sellers before checking the BOI. I just found out about it not to long ago... now I use it!