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07-18-2011, 01:14 PM
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Rodentpro
I would like to state that before I went with Rodent pro I never once saw a parasite in my collection. Then a few months after I start to order from them I had lil worms floating in water dishes. I thought it was from a recent trade and that I just didnt quarantine that guy long/good enough, but after I take these snakes to the vet and get them checked out, the doc says these worms cannot be contracted through the vent of the snake, but only from the prey. Being inside the prey is a necessary step in the development and cannot be skipped. I believe she said they were Pinworms, or trachylides (sp)? So that means that Rodentpros feeders have parasites and they are selling these animals as clean, safe feeders. I will be taking some of these rats/mice of various ages and bring them to her for a fecal exam. We just have to wait until I get paid again or if I have enough after I get the necessary medication to clean my collection. I put this out there as an info thread so that people can not only hold off feeding these rats to their animals, but if they were curious enough themselves to take them to their vet and get them checked out for a second opinion. I will update this thread after we get the fecal smears on the rats done.
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07-18-2011, 01:25 PM
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Are the rodents you are concerned about live, or frozen? Also, have you notified RodentPro about this problem and gotten a response from them? Have you made them aware of this thread?
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07-18-2011, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by kingsnake1
Are the rodents you are concerned about live, or frozen? Also, have you notified RodentPro about this problem and gotten a response from them? Have you made them aware of this thread?
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yes this is a good step to take also but didnt know how to explain it in my own words... do this stuff and good luck
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07-18-2011, 01:27 PM
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Thank you for the Warning... I personally think breeding my own stock is easier since idont have to worry about external parasites in my colony and its cheaper but your experiance is a good piece of information to share with us.
I hop things work out for you and that everything gets squared away
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07-18-2011, 01:30 PM
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That sounds bizarre. THe rodents are hard frozen, so how would they still be alive to have your snake contract them?
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07-18-2011, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfy-hound
That sounds bizarre. THe rodents are hard frozen, so how would they still be alive to have your snake contract them?
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I guess there is a chance the eggs can survive dormant and that they will "awaken" when they unthaw. Im not sure how it works but my vet said it was totally possible for them to contract internal parasites from frozen feed.
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07-18-2011, 01:30 PM
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Frozen, and no I havent. This isnt a bad guy thread but an info thread, they have no need to defend themselves, yet. This is general info for people who use them to know that this is what I found, and if they feel it necessary to hold off feeding until I have a definite answer. Once I have confirmation that infact it was Rodentpros rats believe me I will contact Casey.
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07-18-2011, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rcpreis3
Once I have confirmation that infact it was Rodentpros rats believe me I will contact Casey.
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With all due respect to you, once you called their name here, they should have been notified. I did so.
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07-18-2011, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rcpreis3
Frozen, and no I havent. This isnt a bad guy thread but an info thread, they have no need to defend themselves, yet. This is general info for people who use them to know that this is what I found, and if they feel it necessary to hold off feeding until I have a definite answer. Once I have confirmation that infact it was Rodentpros rats believe me I will contact Casey.
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Then I have to ask what if you find out that they have nothing to do with the feeders? The damage is there already.
Regardless if you are right or wrong at this point, You state this is just a info thread and they need not defend themselves. People can hold off feeding which also translate for some holding off purchasing.
Sorry but that is just not fair to anyone.
The only thing you know at this point is you had parasites in your water bowl. I can think of a lot of reasons of how that could of happened.
Some people have had issues with shipments and some haven't but to be perfectly fair in this circumstance, I think you should have waited to find out the type of pinworm and more information.
Simply because you haven't noticed them before and the very circumstantial fact that you just started using a new supplier of rodents.
Also, yes I've read the embryos can survive up to 48 hrs frozen. Feeders are usually in the box longer than that being delivered. Plus frozen before and after delivery. I find it all highly unlikely but am very interested in the results.
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07-18-2011, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Dennis Hultman
Then I have to ask what if you find out that they have nothing to do with the feeders? The damage is there already.
Regardless if you are right or wrong at this point, You state this is just a info thread and they need not defend themselves. People can hold off feeding which also translate for some holding off purchasing.
Sorry but that is just not fair to anyone.
The only thing you know at this point is you had parasites in your water bowl. I can think of a lot of reasons of how that could of happened.
Some people have had issues with shipments and some haven't but to be perfectly fair in this circumstance, I think you should have waited to find out the type of pinworm and more information.
Simply because you haven't noticed them before and the very circumstantial fact that you just started using a new supplier of rodents.
Also, yes I've read the embryos can survive up to 48 hrs frozen. Feeders are usually in the box longer than that being delivered. Plus frozen before and after delivery. I find it all highly unlikely but am very interested in the results.
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If the results come back clean I have no problem immediately posting such info. But to tell them hey u might have worms in ur rats will make them have to check their colonies, and run tests. The tests cost money and so does it to pay the employees to gather and such. I didnt want them to spend unnecassary time or money on sumthin that might not be their fault. The reason this is here is to let those who care know that they may wanna hold off feeding until I have conclusive test results back from the rats. Im not trying to slander or demean Rodentpro in anyway. Just with the coincidences combined with info from my vet it really didnt leave any other conclusion. And Id rather be safe to let someone know this might affect them, then be sorry I kept my mouth shut.
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