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Old 11-20-2007, 08:31 PM   #61
Golden Gate Geckos
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The person or carrier? The person was Steph and according to Brandons email it was DHL as the carrier.
Questions answered, Thanks.

I tend to agree with Kelli that the gecko's problem is most likely congenital, meaning it is caused during gestation or incubation, or a result of a past metabolic disorder. I do not feel it is genetic... however, I cannot stress enough that this gecko should not be bred under any circumstances. This means she is not a breeder. She is a pet quality animal.

Now, ASSuming the seller was unaware of this problem, (I dunno, it is pretty obvious to me?), then the gecko should simply be sent back and a refund issued, including the return shipping cost. If the buyer keeps the other gecko that she is happy with, then there should be no reimbursement of shipping costs for the geckos sent to her. If the buyer decides to keep the 'pet' gecko, then no reimbursement of shipping charges should be made, and the seller and buyer should negotiate a monetary refund of the difference between a 'breeder' and a 'pet' price.

Since the seller did not pack or ship the geckos himself, he has no way of knowing HOW they were packed, or the ACTUAL condition of the geckos when they were put in the box to be shipped. Right?
 
Old 11-20-2007, 08:32 PM   #62
KelliH
Here is the original pic of the gecko, before it was shipped. I can clearly see what looks like a bend between the tail base and the back legs.
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Old 11-20-2007, 08:35 PM   #63
SouthBayGeckos
for the record....

MARCIA ... I LOVE YOU!

I completely agree with what you are saying, and greatly appreciate your input on the matter.

this is exactly how I would like this to be resolved.
 
Old 11-20-2007, 08:36 PM   #64
KelliH
A closer look. Especially look on the left hand side of the photo, where the black arrow points.
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Old 11-20-2007, 08:36 PM   #65
SouthBayGeckos
Kelli...

for the record

I LOVE YOU TOO!

hahahaha...
 
Old 11-20-2007, 08:38 PM   #66
Golden Gate Geckos
Yes, there is a definite deformity in the pelvic region. Sometimes the stress of shipping can excerbate metabolic and bone problems, but it looks very apparent to me in this photo.

Stephanie, other than his being at bowling tonight, is there a specific reason you are acting on the seller's behalf? Personally, I would like to hear from HIM.
 
Old 11-20-2007, 08:38 PM   #67
KelliH
OOps, sorry, I meant to change the size of the pic too.
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Old 11-20-2007, 08:43 PM   #68
Wilomn
Also steph, my understanding is that you are not supposed to be speaking for someone else on the BOI.

Thanks for the pics Kelli, it does appear there is some sort of swelling.
 
Old 11-20-2007, 08:43 PM   #69
SouthBayGeckos
BY THE WAY,

I HAD NO IDEA that he did not pack and ship the gecko himself...

until I posted on this forum...

thanks for the help marcia.

 
Old 11-20-2007, 08:44 PM   #70
TripleMoonsExotic
You pointing it out Kelli, I do see it now (in his original photo). It's hard to see, but it's there. I certainly didn't see it when they were here, and I did look over them in their cups.

Marcia, I don't appreciate your implications that any of this is my fault simply because I taped up a box and had my driver pick up.
 

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