DAN BIFIELD! HORRIBLE BUSINESS ETHICS!!!

Dan,
   You cannot say that it is as simple as them returning the snakes to you for a full refund it is the fact that you are not trustworthy!  I am sure if they send they snakes back they would never hear from you again!  Send the money first and then I am sure you can trust them to send the snakes back.
    Obviously you are not better than everyone else for the plain and simple fact all of us do not have a bad guy post going on about us, if you are blind to the fact that this will not hurt your business as a snake breeder and seller, and even as a cat breeder, watch and see how things go down hill because of this thread about you.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">OK Dan,

Glad to see you finally responding civilly. spam_Now settle these few questions to start repairing your reputation.

1) Why $200 for shipping? spam_

2) Do you actually have his money in cash to refund should they return the snake? spam_And prove it since you stated, "If you are not happy send the snakes back for a full refund."

3) How did the URI get so far advanced if it was healthy when you shipped? spam_

EVERYONE is waiting on your answers in these matters. spam_No one really cares about your sex life, ex's, or all the other superfluous BS.

And just for you Dan since your so fond of checking us out my website is listed in my signature.
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Well Dan,we're still waiting.

Well first off ........ my computer has been down for a couple of days so I have not been able to read this thread but I am glad I finally got the chance. &nbsp;Richard Mottacelli ( hope I spelled your name right ) To say that Griff is guilty of any wrong doings simply because he sold Dan some snakes is moronic !!! &nbsp;He is not a friend, associate or partner or anything else with Griff. &nbsp;You have a lot of nerve maiking those accusations as Griff is a good business person with extremely high ethics and standards. &nbsp;Griff called and told me about this thread and its amazing because he was interested in possibly buying the same snake that Mathew wound up getting and now he feels bad for Mathew and lucky for himself. &nbsp;And before I forget ...... Thank you Neil for mentioning my name as well, especially since I am in Hollywood,Fl. as well. &nbsp;Guilt by association or by living in the same city is silly. &nbsp;As far as what happened here to start this post .... I really think that Mathew is afraid to send back the snakes because in his mind he doesn't believe that he will see his money back, whether that is true or not no one can say because I doubt if Mathew is going to take that chance. &nbsp;Dan I feel that if you wanted to salvage some of your reputation then you would refund the money in full ( including shipping ) and when the snakes are healthy enough to ship then you could even have a middleman who you both trust coordinate the shipping/refund between you and this would show that you had no bad intentions and that you bear no ill will against Mathew. &nbsp;Mathew would be happy and you would look a lot better than you do now. &nbsp;And just a little personal advice Dan, you should really be more proffesional in your dealing with people, because when you email people with threatning or vulgar emails it makes you look bad, not tough, proffesional, trustworthy, or any of the things you need to be a success in this business. &nbsp;Also before I forget, to the person who doubted if the het for snow that Dan was selling was even really a het for snow I can verify that it was and I know Griff and his animals and I even own a couple of them .... You can bank on his hets !!! &nbsp;And the fact that Dan was using Griffs name was simply as a customer mentioning the breeder in order to validate the het status of that particular animal and anyone selling an animal would do the same thing to give credibility to what they were selling, as opposed to saying " I think it's a dh for snow, that's what the guy I bought it from said " &nbsp;Am I making sense here ?


Gary Walsch
Sunshine State Reptiles


By the way .... why does everyone forget the " C " in my last name, including Neil ?

Dan,

You don't know anyone who's ever hear of NEIL?<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>??

Where do you live? &nbsp;The South Pole???

I didn't think anyone who could find their way here had never heard of Neil! &nbsp;Good or bad, Neil is everywhere online when it comes to herps! &nbsp;Hehe



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My questioning about the DH snows was based upon Dan's exposed character (or lack thereof), and NOT based upon any consideration of Griff's or anyone else's reputation. &nbsp;I simply intended to say that anyone who acts like Dan has been acting is equally capable of saying, "I have some DH snows from (insert recognizable breeder's name here) for sale." &nbsp; That is all I was questioning, and I meant no insult to Griff nor to anyone else beyond Dan. &nbsp;THAT I meant.

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Hey Dan
as you can see from most of these post, your foul laungage and rude e-mails is no way to succeed in this business. There is a lot of good herp people who read this site and see your unprofessionalism. &nbsp;It sometimes only takes one bad deal to show the kind of person you are to due business with.

I can not beleive you live in florida and haven't heard on Neil Gubitz. But you have heard of Ben Seigel and recommend him.

You need to do something to make it right with Matt and Jeremy. That is the only way you can make yourself look any better. You need to refund his money first and I am sure they will send you back the animals. If not we can sick Neil on them. LOL

Rick Steward/Ricks Reptiles

Sorry Gary WalshwithaC.... spam_How's that? Better? Man, you people in Hollywood sure are anal about your names, huh? lmao

Yeah, Darin Chappelwith2L's (lol).... that's me! Totally invisible! BTW, Dan, who's this Ben Siegel guy you're talking about? I've never heard of him, and I've been in this business for WEEKS! Man! You know everybody! I'm impressed (and very humbled)! hahahaha
....Neil "Claude Reins" Gubitz

We can not have double standards....
true we say Dan is "low life" because of his actions or verbal prowess....
But we can not have double standards...

It is usually not customary to issue a refund without the snakes being shipped back first.
I would NEVER issue a refund without having my snakes shipped back to me first....
We do not ask this of anyone else....why would we ask Dan to refund before shipment? spam_There was another thread somewhere....we told the guy...aboslutely no refund until the snakes are shipped back....We can NOT say the complete opposite for Dan. spam_We will NOT, start having double standards.

The customer in this case...will have to send the snakes back.
Then the seller will issue the refund.

Does anyone here go to a store and say....." I want a refund on my (item) NOW...But I plan on bringing it back to you next week.

What would this board become if we routinely have double standards?

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Richard you are wrong....If I sold an animal to someone "BAD" and they said the animal was from me......it automatically makes me a bad guy? &nbsp;I DON'T THINK SO

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Ritche.... I guess you never had the chili at the local diner, huh? You wouldn't be saying that so fast! lmao