Ray's Reptilia and North Port Reptiles... one and the same?

04-07-2006, 05:09 PM

I belong to another forum, and a couple of the new members there have received really, really poor service from Ray's Reptilia. One of them just pointed out a new site.. North Port Reptiles. He said that when he called and spoke to Ray's Reptilia, he spoke to Joy, who was his secretary. Anyhow.. now a Joy has a very similar website to Ray's, is advertising on Kingsnake (and maybe here?) and it appears that Ray's ads are nowhere to be found. In addition, there were several identical pictures on both sites yesterday, although they seem to have taken care of that after a person from the forum emailed North Port Reptiles and asked if they were associated with another reptile company. After checking again, it looks like only the bearded dragon section on both sites share the same pictures still. The response given to the member was that, no, that they were a new company all together. Anyhow, neither site has a phone number or an address, so it is a bit hard to verify that they are one and the same. I suppose "Joy" could have struck out on her own? Somehow, I don't believe that is the case. Here are the two websites..

http://www.northportreptiles.com
http://www.raysreptilia.com

Heika Sample

04-07-2006, 05:32 PM

Sure looks the same. The whole 'baby albino corns 65 dollars shipped' indicates to me that they are in fact the same, or related. I've not seen anyone else in the industry word their ads like that---smells and looks like Ray's "I Ship USPS" Reptilia all the way.

Anyone contact North Port and see how they ship?

04-07-2006, 06:17 PM

http://www.raysreptilia.com

Domain Name.......... raysreptilia.com
Creation Date........ 2003-05-07
Registration Date.... 2003-05-07
Expiry Date.......... 2006-05-07
Organisation Name.... Ramon Torres
Organisation Address. 8314 Marwood dr
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. richmond
Organisation Address. 23235
Organisation Address. VA
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES

Admin Name........... Ramon Torres
Admin Address........ 8314 Marwood dr
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ richmond
Admin Address........ 23235
Admin Address........ VA
Admin Address........ UNITED STATES
Admin Email.......... raysreptilia@yahoo.com
Admin Phone.......... +1.8046740762

http://www.northportreptiles.com

Domain Name.......... northportreptiles.com
Creation Date........ 2006-04-03
Registration Date.... 2006-04-03
Expiry Date.......... 2007-04-03
Organisation Name.... Ramon Torres
Organisation Address. P O Box 99800
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. EmeryVille
Organisation Address. 94662
Organisation Address. CA
Organisation Address. US

Admin Name........... PrivateRegContact Admin
Admin Address........ P O Box 99800
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ EmeryVille
Admin Address........ 94662
Admin Address........ CA
Admin Address........ US
Admin Email.......... contact@myprivateregistration.com
Admin Phone.......... +1.5105952002

Same Person? I think so.

04-07-2006, 06:23 PM

Busted!

04-07-2006, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joejr14

Busted!

I would sure say so.

04-07-2006, 09:09 PM

Good catch Josh!!! I bet Ray will post later on that this site has nothing to due with him

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04-07-2006, 09:47 PM

I thought the same thing, When I saw this new Company advertising, I Imediatily thought of Rays Reptilia...Its one thing to try and salvage your reputation...but its another thing to start up a whole new company and try to start fresh and think everyone will not notice...I saw that too...the way he words his adds...they where identical...Glad other people saw the same thing..

04-07-2006, 09:51 PM

Just another reason to point out that these are the same people (if it isn't blatantly obvious by now):

These are exerpts from their HTML code:

Quote:

Originally Posted by http://www.northportreptiles.com

<html>
<head>
<title>Reptiles for sale at North Port Reptiles </title>
<meta name="generator" content="Yahoo! SiteBuilder/2.2.4/1.5.0_06">
<meta name="keywords" content="reptiles,snakes,boas,pythons for sale,boa constrictors,snakes forsale,chameleons for sale,bearded dragonsforsale,">



<style type="text/css"></style>
<script>// workaround for IE table layout bugs
function tableWorkaround(cols) { if (document.all) { document.write('<tr>'); for (var i = 0; i < cols; i++) { document.write('<td></td>'); } document.write('</tr>') }; }
function tableWorkaround2_colheader() { if (document.all) { document.write('<col width="0">') }; }
function tableWorkaround2(rowHeight) { if (document.all) { document.write('<td height="' + rowHeight + '">'); document.write('</td>') }; }
</script>
</head>

Quote:

Originally Posted by http://www.raysreptilia.com

<html>
<head>
<title>Ray's Reptilia Breeder of Fine Reptiles </title>
<meta name="generator" content="Yahoo! SiteBuilder/2.2.4/1.5.0_06">
<meta name="author" content="Ray Torres">
<meta name="keywords" content="snakes,reptile sfo rsale,snakes for sale,reptile breeder,chameleons,bearded dragons,sales,">



<style type="text/css"></style>
<script>// workaround for IE table layout bugs
function tableWorkaround(cols) { if (document.all) { document.write('<tr>'); for (var i = 0; i < cols; i++) { document.write('<td></td>'); } document.write('</tr>') }; }
function tableWorkaround2_colheader() { if (document.all) { document.write('<col width="0">') }; }
function tableWorkaround2(rowHeight) { if (document.all) { document.write('<td height="' + rowHeight + '">'); document.write('</td>') }; }
</script>
</head>

Very very similar.

Quote:

Originally Posted by http://www.northportreptiles.com

Quote:

Originally Posted by http://www.raysreptilia.com

Quote:

Originally Posted by http://www.northportreptiles.com

<script language="JavaScript" src="http://hostingprod.com/js_source/geov2.js"></script><script language="javascript">geovisit();</script><noscript><img src="http://visit.webhosting.yahoo.com/visit.gif?us1144460473" alt="setstats" border="0" width="1" height="1"></noscript>
<IMG SRC="http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=76001405&t=1144460473&f=p7w4" ALT=1 WIDTH=1 HEIGHT=1>

Quote:

Originally Posted by http://www.raysreptilia.com

<script language="JavaScript" src="http://hostingprod.com/js_source/geov2.js"></script><script language="javascript">geovisit();</script><noscript><img src="http://visit.webhosting.yahoo.com/visit.gif?us1144460476" alt="setstats" border="0" width="1" height="1"></noscript>
<IMG SRC="http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=76001405&t=1144460476" ALT=1 WIDTH=1 HEIGHT=1>

Exactly the same.

04-07-2006, 10:12 PM

A Few Screenshots.

04-07-2006, 10:36 PM

Heika,
To the viewer, we traded PM's about this before you began this thread, but I would like to publicly compliment you and those that helped bring this information here. To the others of you who can pull up all the codes etc, this dense old man salutes you. I am happy enough just being able to take digital pictures. I will speculate that the motivation by Ray was to run from his name (kind of a tough reality, eh?). I would suggest that those of you with an outstanding issue with Ray report what you have to Kingsnake, etc., as he may have worn out his welcome there, and they won't take kindly to the reincarnation if just to duck his track record there.
And to Ray, if you or an employee read this. We reside in the same state, and I sell to people who in turn sell to you. I defecate better than your past business practices. If you finally want to do it right, I salute you. But you need to start with a lot of the folks who you swindled, and you did swindle them. Surely you do not have all the money to make restitution now, but you can get your name back by contacting them, and making an arrangement. It could take many months for you to fix things, maybe longer. It is do-able. Until then ..... well, I am glad these computer sleuths are not on my butt.


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