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Old 03-30-2018, 10:56 AM   #11
bklynsfinest312
The only problem i see with this is if your buying an egg one would think it would cost significantly less than the price of an already hatched tortoise. But from what I seen from people selling them that is not the case at all.
 
Old 03-30-2018, 11:12 AM   #12
Lucille
One problem is (still) that there does not seem to be single positive BOI report of a successful egg sale, ship, and hatch not only from this vendor but from any vendor, unless (and I welcome this) someone can find one that I missed.

That coupled with the post William just made about expense, and it seems to be an expensive gamble that might work, but I myself would not gamble that kind of money without a positive BOI track record.
 
Old 03-30-2018, 11:20 AM   #13
bklynsfinest312
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One problem is (still) that there does not seem to be single positive BOI report of a successful egg sale, ship, and hatch not only from this vendor but from any vendor, unless (and I welcome this) someone can find one that I missed.

That coupled with the post William just made about expense, and it seems to be an expensive gamble that might work, but I myself would not gamble that kind of money without a positive BOI track record.
Exactly I would take a gamble at 25% cost of the actual tortoise. I wouldnt buy an egg as where I could purchase the actual tortoise for the same price. IMO it doesnt seem right you pay that much with the risk involved and no gurantees.

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Old 03-30-2018, 11:48 AM   #14
Lucille
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Just do it yourself, it's not crazy expensive and they you will know beyond any further doubt.
You seem to be saying that the way to approach a questionable action is instead of researching information just do it. That is not very scientific, because there are variables involved. And as William pointed out it is expensive, often approaching the cost of a hatchling.
 
Old 03-30-2018, 12:03 PM   #15
rbetz-Tortstork
Email me. Would love to talk to you over the phone and answer any of your questions. This has already been proven. Data has been collected. In fact, There is a short article about tortstork in May/June 2018 issue of reptile magazine. This isn’t for someone that just wants a pet. Those people should spend a little more and buy an actually tortoise. This is for people who want to hatch their own tortoise. Think of it like adopting verse having your own child. Might be a far fetched analogy, but hopefully it makes sense like that. I’m okay with people not being okay with this. That’s what makes the world go round. But please know what you are talking about before you start bashing anything in life. Take the time to email me and learn about what I have been doing for the last three years to make this venture work.
 
Old 03-30-2018, 12:11 PM   #16
Lucille
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Email me. Would love to talk to you over the phone and answer any of your questions. This has already been proven. Data has been collected. In fact, There is a short article about tortstork in May/June 2018 issue of reptile magazine. This isn’t for someone that just wants a pet. Those people should spend a little more and buy an actually tortoise. This is for people who want to hatch their own tortoise. Think of it like adopting verse having your own child. Might be a far fetched analogy, but hopefully it makes sense like that. I’m okay with people not being okay with this. That’s what makes the world go round. But please know what you are talking about before you start bashing anything in life. Take the time to email me and learn about what I have been doing for the last three years to make this venture work.

I always find it suspicious when people try to take topics private 'email me' 'call me'. If you have interesting info you can post it right here.
I am curious about all sorts of stuff, fortunately my Dad a scientist and researcher encouraged that.
But more than anything else, here, I encourage information and ask questions for the benefit of those people HERE who want to make an informed decision prior to purchase, and not gamble away or lose their hard earned money.

I suggested this once before: talk about the interesting stuff here and get positive references to write up their experience on the BOI. If there is no info here, and no references on the BOI, I call it like I see it, which is an expensive gamble.
 
Old 03-30-2018, 01:03 PM   #17
rbetz-Tortstork
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I always find it suspicious when people try to take topics private 'email me' 'call me'. If you have interesting info you can post it right here.
I am curious about all sorts of stuff, fortunately my Dad a scientist and researcher encouraged that.
But more than anything else, here, I encourage information and ask questions for the benefit of those people HERE who want to make an informed decision prior to purchase, and not gamble away or lose their hard earned money.

I suggested this once before: talk about the interesting stuff here and get positive references to write up their experience on the BOI. If there is no info here, and no references on the BOI, I call it like I see it, which is an expensive gamble.
I have nothing to hide or be suspicious about. I just donít like wasting peopleís time. A person like yourself, is hard to convince that something new and creative is working. So I have better luck talking live or having a private email conversation with them to answer any questions they might have. For anyone else who is curious, they can visit my website, a lot of information is on my website.
Regarding BOI, I didnt even know what that was, I had to look it up, Iíve never even clicked on that tab ever. Torstork hasnít been advertised on classifieds a lot. This option of hatching your own tortoise is clearly not for you. You probably hatch hundreds of hatchlings a year of many different species, common and rare. I bet Your successful, your BOI is jam packed full of amazing positive reviews, youíre probably running out of paper daily from all the shipping labels youíre printing. I understand that your skepticle, thatís okay, ask me any question you want and Iíll answer it. You wonít be happy or believe my answers bc Iím getting the sense that you find a problem with ever solution regardless how great the idea is. But Iíll answer your questions.
Youíre also the reason why Iíll be locking my ads going forward. Iím too busy to be trying to convince someone that is hard to convince. Follow me on Instagram @tort.stork, I post successful stories there often.
 
Old 03-30-2018, 06:44 PM   #18
Lucille
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But Iíll answer your questions.
You have agreed to supply references several times. Is there even one person who has successfully received via shipment and hatched an egg from you?
It seems as if the questions I am asking are relevant to the business. You are asking people to send quite a bit of money for an egg, surely someone asking whether it has been done even once is a question you might expect.

And even if it has never been done, where people have either not sent money or the egg shipped out didn't hatch, just be honest and share your plans to improve.
 
Old 03-30-2018, 07:11 PM   #19
rbetz-Tortstork
Is this the only social media thing you do? I have a bunch of references. I post it All on my Instagram. I’m not going to put all their names on this thread. I update my website with them as well. Google tortstork. Buy the reptile magazine this month there is an article about tortstork and how it changed someone’s life. Email me, I’ll send you the article. I’ll also connect you with a bunch of people who have done this. I will also send you videos of successful eggs. Stop being so difficult you’re making yourself look ridiculous. I’m not a huge company. I’m a hobbyist that is supplying an option to hatch your own tortoise. If you don’t like it, move on. If you like it, research or just email me like everyone else has done.
 
Old 03-30-2018, 07:43 PM   #20
NortheastReptiles
I recieved my first egg from Tortstork earlier this week. It arrived safely and on time. Within 24 hours of being placed in the incubator it has already begun to chalk. Check out my instagram @northeastreptiles for photos and testimony. I could not be happier with the entire experience. Randy, the owner, has answered my every question along the way super quick. This dude has years or experience in tortoise care, including the hatching process. He has PERFECTED the shipping of these eggs. Within 48 hours of being laid my Sulcata egg was safely in my incubator. Chalking started soon after and has spread farther since. There is risk in any pet you buy over the internet. To me watching this little Sulcata break through and take its first gasp of air right in front of me is well worth the price tag.
 

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