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12-21-2012, 05:53 PM
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Its really gross knowing they were so close to me. I wonder how long they were in business and made these animals suffer. If he were to trade places with these poor animals, even for a day. Just so he understood what it was like for them to live that way! PETA solution to everything(including dogs, and cats) is to euthanize what can be rescued. They've euthanize countless animals. I'm pretty sure the animals would prefer to live, rather than be put down. With are differences aside, I'm glad they reported the horrible situation.
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12-21-2012, 07:53 PM
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#82
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Thanks Marqus. One word can make a lot of difference.
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12-22-2012, 04:08 AM
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#83
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It really seems unfair to blame the death of these animals on PETA. As stated in multiple articles and quoted several times in this thread, PETA had no part in the decision to euthanize. Also, Mitch and his coworkers are solely responsible for the unfortunate outcome of this whole thing. To direct your anger towards PETA, who actually did some good in this particular situation and played no role in the fate of these poor animals, is just incredibly misguided.
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12-22-2012, 10:19 AM
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I'm not directly aiming my anger towards PETA. I just know what they believe in. It came down to the city of Lake Elsinore. I'm pretty sure some of them could have been rescued. It's just very unsettling knowing how the conditions they were forced to live in, and the choice the city made.
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12-22-2012, 01:55 PM
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#85
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I am not a lawyer, but I believe the city can not sell or give away someone's property if there are pending criminal charges. If that is the case, I am sure it boiled down to animal friend's of the valley not having the resources to maintain 600 animals during a lengthy court case- but not being legally allowed to sell/give away the animals.
A terrible situation either way.
Jordan
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12-22-2012, 02:32 PM
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I think one of the article says Mitch gave up rights to those animals.
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12-22-2012, 02:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by typherp
I think one of the article says Mitch gave up rights to those animals.
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He agreed to have them euthanized, which is different from just surrendering animals. Had he resisted, the criminal investigation likely would have kept any of these animals from being able to be adopted out and the strain on the rescue organizations to find responsible foster homes or to provide everything they needed was going to be too great, as I mentioned earlier. Because part of the investigation would be "does this guy get to keep any of these animals if he wants them"?
We also do not know, for sure, any of these animals were salvageable. Conditions in that ware house have a good chances of just being that bad. I do not know why it is so difficult for anyone to realize this.
They were living in a highly contaminated, toxic sort of environment where disease and parasites were likely running rampant. While I empathize with the situation and feel badly the animals had to lose their lives because of Mitch and his employees, they are the ones responsible for the loss of those lives. The implication that the financial and emotional burden of their care falls into whoever chose to attempt to rescue them is just wrong.
Their deaths are on Mitch and his worker's hands.
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12-22-2012, 03:00 PM
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Can you tell me where Mitch said he wanted them euthanized? I didn't see that anywhere. Ultimately this is all on Mitch and his employees, but I still think some of the animals should have been saved.
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12-22-2012, 03:25 PM
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"Global Captive Breeders (GBC) owner and Orange County resident Mitch Behm voluntarily turned the animals over so they could be put down, according to city officials, who add no arrests have been made but the animal cruelty and neglect investigation continues."
http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazin...al_captive.php
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12-22-2012, 03:28 PM
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There is another article somewhere where it stated he agreed to have them euthanized, but I cannot find it at the moment. There are a lot to go through.
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