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11-20-2004, 02:55 PM
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Hey "Matt" how do you know of these "legal" issues? Josh McDermott
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11-20-2004, 03:29 PM
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The breeder and person renigging on a guarantee
But we talked and she was insistent we NOT take Skadi to the vet as it would only stress her further. By next afternoon Skadi still hadn't eaten.
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She is most likely not responding due to legal issues
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Bull, enough of the garbage, time this stuff came out in the open
The legal issues exist because the breeder is NOT honoring her guarantee. The purchaser asked to return the dragon when it was obvious it was having problems. They were insulted, LIED TO and refused.
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We talked to Terri again and she was becoming increasingly hostile and irritated whenever we called, saying "no one else had needed this much help with one of her animals".
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Not True, there was someone else we know going thought the same thing at the same time, that baby dragon died. I am sending that contact a
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11-20-2004, 03:46 PM
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Sorry, hit enter by accident.
We are sending the contact info of the other person who's baby died. They went through the same thing, not eating or thriving, putting up paper around the tank to lower stress. Talking to the breeder and unlike this original poster here, they did take the dragon to a vet and try to get it professional help. They still lost the baby within a month. MANY experienced people went over their husbandry, including the vet, that was not the problem.
I would have stayed out of this if the breeder had honored her guarantee, but it gets me riled up when they are trying to sandbag on a guarantee and victimize the already victims more, with things that are nothing short of abusive. Snow people, take their money, LIE to them and then refuse to live up to your word.
TO Terri,
Your in the wrong here, your lies are catching up to you, they have to..... this is a small industry and most people in it do know each other, how do you think you can get away with the false history you give out, false claims you make. You lie claiming 15 years breeding bearded dragons experience. Do you forget just less than 3 years ago asking us and other breeders about you wanting to get into bearded dragon? Or sitting in my motel room at the breeders convention and talking about your first clutch that hatched just over a year ago?
You did not create the citrus line, you bought it and renamed it. LIES
Two years ago you did not even know what coccidia was, or albon...... now your a 15 year experienced breeder of beardies!! MORE LIES
Sorry others who got taken in, I hate to see people jerked around.
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11-20-2004, 04:18 PM
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Hey salito I did not say to spend $500 blindly , I spent $250 and got to know her over a few hours over the phone,(which is rare for a breeded such as herself)and told her to surprise me, and I will never go anywhere else with my buisness. You call me insane salito 718 but you dont seem like to much of a mental giant yourself. And as for the question about legal issues , It is not important how I know ,what will that change. All that is important, is that it is known.
with love
Matt Pittman
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11-20-2004, 04:20 PM
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Yeah, "its known" by this new member with 3 posts under his belt...gee thanks for the info. Matt way to get this all cleared up. Josh McDermott
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11-20-2004, 04:38 PM
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how new I am to this site is not important, perhaps I was told about this issue, and that is the only reason I became a member of this school house chat room, full of uneducated opinions. my reason for doing so is not to clear up your childish gossip or as you may call it "issue". Maybe its just to state my opinion which stands beside the truth. How many posts you made on this site is nothing to boast about, What If I told you that I am proud of you. Do you feel complete now. Your welcome sweetie....
more love
Matt Pittman
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11-20-2004, 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by matt pittman
Hey salito I did not say to spend $500 blindly , I spent $250 and got to know her over a few hours over the phone,(which is rare for a breeded such as herself)and told her to surprise me, and I will never go anywhere else with my buisness. You call me insane salito 718 but you dont seem like to much of a mental giant yourself. And as for the question about legal issues , It is not important how I know ,what will that change. All that is important, is that it is known.
with love
Matt Pittman
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mental giant? anyways
i can tell you this much dude. the reason she is renigging on her
garantee is because she will never find another person to pay 500 dollars for one of her dragons. she pulled a fast one period.
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11-20-2004, 04:48 PM
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3 post and all on this thread... almost looks like someone asked him to come here and defend them
Matt, its nice you are happy with what you purchase, at what you paid.. that's what it should be about for you
But others are not, and got ripped off. They bought something, based on what they were told, including the experience of the breeder, lines, genetics, etc. They find out that is not so, the reptile is having problems and in a timely manner request a refund AS PER THE GUARANTEE... and are denied.
Someone is only as good as their word and in this industry that means a lot, when it is evident their word is no good or false, others should know about that and be warned so someone else does not get taken in by the same gimmick.
There is nothing wrong with being a breeder for only 2 years, but there is when you lie to people and claim it is 15 to make sales.
Nothing wrong with selling a dragon by any color phase you want to make up... you can call 'em Einstein dragons if you think they are so smart.... but there is when you misrepresent yourself as a developer over generations of a color phase or line... when in actually you bought it 2-3 years ago and just renamed it. Your stealing from the person who did work had to breed that line.
AND, baby dragons do stress when in new environments, but experienced breeder can lessen that problem with how they handle raising those dragons and prepping for shipping.... when some request a refund as per your policy for whatever reason, and you renege, then change the policy on your site to cover it up...... well, all the above have a name for someone like that
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11-20-2004, 05:05 PM
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Cheri s., I very much agree with your above post, you are very well spoken and respectable, you have already earned my respect. I just hate to see someone like terri's name be butchered because of a negative story that someone posted on this site, I could post anything I wanted to on this site , maybe out of frustration, hatred ,or jealousy, who knows. but I guarantee about 90 percent of these people would take it to the heart and believe it. I really respect Terri and her biz. I just hate to hear that. All im trying to get across is dont just jump on every negative thing you hear, thats all, these people are like the press, twisting and contorting everything they hear. I hope she is not a liar like you say she is. That would be a big slap in the face.
matt pittman
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11-20-2004, 05:35 PM
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Thanks for all the love Matt glad you feel that way....but you can give it to Terry she seems to need it more than i. Josh McDermott
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