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Old 05-27-2011, 03:51 AM   #1
Mile_High_Dragons
A little help with genetics?

Hey everyone! I have a question! What morph are these babies?
Male was a Hypo/Clear nail het trans and the female is a pastel.

Dad:




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Babies:






Thanks everyone!!!
 
Old 05-27-2011, 05:29 PM   #2
westcoastdragons
Your female, aside from looking extremely young dose not have clear nails (at least that is how it appears in the pics), which one would see in a true pastel. Without any additional info on their bloodlines, I would call the normals, normal and any with colour, whatever colour they show. Personally I would not advertise them even as "Possible" trans or hypo hets. But that’s just me.
 
Old 05-27-2011, 05:50 PM   #3
Mile_High_Dragons
Thanks! I really appreciate the info. So she has the color and pattern of a pastel then? Thank you!
 
Old 05-27-2011, 06:14 PM   #4
Beardiefreak26
pastel is just a normal hypo with no special color changes
 
Old 05-27-2011, 06:14 PM   #5
Beardiefreak26
i would call them color + het hypo poss het trans
 
Old 05-27-2011, 08:22 PM   #6
angie.h
Hi Zechariah.....the male dragon looks robust and healthy, and is really a great looking dragon. The babies are cute as can be, like all babies are, and very pretty! I would like to mention that they look just a bit dehydrated, I wonder if you spray them daily ? It's good to spray them twice a day, keeps them hydrated, or give a very shallow bath. The poor mother looks very thin, it would probably be good to feed her several meals a day to get some weight on her, provide lots of calcium, too.....and keep her from being bred again. Egg -laying sure takes a toll on them, and the females need huge amounts of food.
 
Old 05-28-2011, 03:19 AM   #7
Mile_High_Dragons
Thanks for all the great info Angie! I have been getting a lot of flak on that female. But, I have been feeding here a ton and offering the occasional pinkie for a quick boost of protein. I got her as an adult as a rescue so I think she might be having a hard time gaining weight for some reason. I do have her separated for this reason.
As for the babies, I spray them 2 or 3 times daily and they get soaked every other day so they are definitely not dehydrated. For some reason this clutch has been dropping like flies and I think it has to do with Mom and some issues she may have. I started out with 14 and am now down to 6 which has never happened before. They are getting the same care as every other clutch I have raised. And they are still dying. Has anyone ever had this problem before? Because I have another clutch now that is thriving! I just dont get it.
Thanks again for all the AWESOME input! I really do appreciate it!
 
Old 05-28-2011, 03:21 AM   #8
Mile_High_Dragons
Oh, and the female is 3 years old Rik. (forgot to answer that before)
 
Old 05-28-2011, 07:59 AM   #9
angie.h
Hi Zechariah....you're welcome. Yes, I thought that the babies have a " not doung well" look about them. It really goes back to the mother, you mentioned that she was a rescue, and so she had issues before, no doubt, and in that thin condition, she will not gain any weight if bred, as a matter of fact if she is bred again I honestly think she that could be the end of her. Even if she is done laying [ you know she can lay more than one clutch from one mating] she will have a hard time putting on weight, her legs and neck show how thin she is. She needs several feedings a day, hornworms can put weight back on, and even though I don't use pinkies, she could probably use them several times a week along with her usual insects, plus greens. Try to imagine the amount of food and nutrients that are diverted from her body to develop all those eggs. A female needs far more food than the male, a male can get a little thin during the mating season, but not the female.
 
Old 05-28-2011, 08:02 AM   #10
angie.h
Ooooops !! I'm sorry, it's Zachary, not Zechariah...got mixed up because of the other respondent.
 

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