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Old 10-11-2002, 02:29 PM   #1
Aggressive Kitten
I've posted "wanted" ads for a tame lizard (tegu, iguana, monitor, etc.), and i've had a couple people contact me, but after reading some of the stuff that goes on I really don't know if it's the best thing to do. I've heard good things about Neil (in tampa), and --something International, Prehistoric pets, and a couple others, but I haven't really found anything I like with these people (Your animals are wonderful, but i'm picky, and looking for something specifically), and when I do find something that interests me, I usually don't have the money at the time, and never see the post that I was interested in again.

Just curious if anyone could RECOMMEND breeders for someone who specifically breeds these lizards (Tegu's, Monitor's, or Iguana's)?

Thank you!
 
Old 10-11-2002, 02:44 PM   #2
Rob @ RK Reptiles
First off you need to post your full name otherwise your post will be deleted.  Second, there are many reputable and reliable dealers out there, and the ones that are dishonest and commit these terrible acts are the few and not the majority.
 
Old 10-11-2002, 03:54 PM   #3
dwedeking
Your going to hear about the scammers and rip off artists more than your going to hear about the good dealings (just human nature to talk about the bad things and not the good things). There are a lot of individuals and companies that finish many deals daily with no issue. Just not a lot of interest in "I sent them money, they sent me a reptile, good job"
 
Old 10-11-2002, 08:08 PM   #4
Glenn Bartley
Is this a troll, sure sounds like one. Rings familiar bells and whistles but I'll bite anyhow.

Once you find someone you tare thinking of as a prospective seller, run his/her name through the BOI on this site with a good guy / bad guy type inquiry. That way you will get some feedback if the person was ever heard of by people using this site. Why take chances.

As for the names you mentioned in your post, this General Business Discussions forum is not the place to give feedback about them.
 
Old 10-13-2002, 10:01 AM   #5
AggressiveKitten
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Glenn Bartley @ Oct. 11 2002,20:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Is this a troll, sure sounds like one. Rings familiar bells and whistles but I'll bite anyhow.

Once you find someone you tare thinking of as a prospective seller, run his/her name through the BOI on this site with a good guy / bad guy type inquiry. That way you will get some feedback if the person was ever heard of by people using this site. Why take chances.

As for the names you mentioned in your post, this General Business Discussions forum is not the place to give feedback about them.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Wow, how rude. Pre-judging someone new. How typical.

I'm NOT posting my full name on a board. I'm young, and god knows what's lurking on this board.

I'll just wait for this post to get deleted.

Thank you to those who offered helpful advice. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>
 
Old 10-13-2002, 11:31 AM   #6
Arboreals of the Rainforest
Kitten
Don't take what Glenn or anyone else says personal. spam_We here on the BOI (myself included) feel very strongly an compassionately towards protecting others and the animals from wrong doings. spam_He and I have had many words back and forth but Glenn is still one of the good guys around here.

He gave you some very sound advice;</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Once you find someone you tare thinking of as a prospective seller, run his/her name through the BOI on this site with a good guy / bad guy type inquiry. That way you will get some feedback if the person was ever heard of by people using this site. Why take chances.
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However Rob is wrong in one instance, full names are only required for posting on the BIO portion of this web link. spam_But it is a common courtesy to place a name to a post. It does help weed out the TROLLS that have been eluded to in this thread. spam_To many times before has a thread just like this one and just as anonymous been found out to be just a TROLL looking to stir a turd. spam_

Welcomed to the Fauna Classifieds.
 
Old 10-13-2002, 12:27 PM   #7
Pennebaker
Has this been a rough couple of weeks for the BOI or what?<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>
It's been a little crazy on there and pretty negative. spam_I can understand it turning people off, but it is a great protection when buying over the internet. spam_
When you do find what you want, you do a search for other people with experiences with this person.
And yes, &quot;bad&quot; gets posted a lot more than &quot;good&quot;--or at least gets more attention.

As for finding a &quot;tame&quot; iguana, monitor, or tegu--it's not easy through a dealer--most already &quot;tame&quot; lizards of those species are spoiled pets--they tend not be &quot;tame&quot; on their own.
Maybe try getting a baby ackie monitor, or if you want something big, try a baby ARGENTINE tegu, and raise them up to know you. spam_Those would be your best bets. spam_Or if you have a particular species in mind, just get it young and expect to have to work with it a lot to tame it down.
There are lots of good ackie breeders, and two very well know argentine tegu breeders that would work for you if you are interested.

good luck
dana
 
Old 10-13-2002, 02:00 PM   #8
reptileguy
But... Hey guys! &nbsp;This isnt the BOI! &nbsp;Its the GENERAL BUSINESS DISCUSSIONS FORUM. &nbsp;Sorry to yell, maybe I am lost...

Nope - It still says General Business Discussions at the top.

Mark
 
Old 10-13-2002, 06:29 PM   #9
AggressiveKitten
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Pennebaker @ Oct. 13 2002,12:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Has this been a rough couple of weeks for the BOI or what?<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>
It's been a little crazy on there and pretty negative. spam_I can understand it turning people off, but it is a great protection when buying over the internet. spam_
When you do find what you want, you do a search for other people with experiences with this person.
And yes, &quot;bad&quot; gets posted a lot more than &quot;good&quot;--or at least gets more attention.

As for finding a &quot;tame&quot; iguana, monitor, or tegu--it's not easy through a dealer--most already &quot;tame&quot; lizards of those species are spoiled pets--they tend not be &quot;tame&quot; on their own.
Maybe try getting a baby ackie monitor, or if you want something big, try a baby ARGENTINE tegu, and raise them up to know you. spam_Those would be your best bets. spam_Or if you have a particular species in mind, just get it young and expect to have to work with it a lot to tame it down.
There are lots of good ackie breeders, and two very well know argentine tegu breeders that would work for you if you are interested.

good luck
dana</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
That's actually what i'm leaning more towards, a Argentine tegu, not the columbian (I hear the Argentines have better temperments.) What two breeders could you refer me to?

By the way, I wasn't posting a &quot;thread&quot; about a specific person, I was merely trying to see if anyone had any knowledge of good breeders in the species i'm interested in. I added the extra &quot;Wow, reading all these &quot;Rip-off&quot;, and &quot;Fraud&quot;... &quot; stuff so that my message would be clearly understandable. Nobody wants to get ripped off, obviously, so I guess it's pretty much hit and miss?

Hopefully i'll run across some good luck.

Thanks for the input. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

By the way--Lovely pic of the tegu!
 
Old 10-13-2002, 07:00 PM   #10
Neil Gubitz
Kitten.... (if that IS your real name?) lmao.... I think you're going about this the wrong way.... just because someone bred the baby in question, doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be tame??? As an example.... 3 years ago, two guys came in to my store with three (1.2) of the most immaciated, dehydrated, skin-sored, juvenile Iguanas you'll ever want to see! They were mean and nasty, they would swat their tails at anything that came near them.... one of the females looked like it wouldn't make it through the night.... luckily, I have a very large screen enclosure in the store that happened to be empty at the time.... I put them all in there and slowly started to get them back to health.... if you came in and saw them today.... you'd be amazed! They're about 5' long....they're fat, healthy and VERY TAME!! I names them.... &quot;Sydney and his Ho's!! lol.... I can hold each one of them with no problems whatsoever! Except for the fact that they weigh about 10 pounds each!
The point of this, is that you can buy ANY baby of whatever species you want.... even if it's killer-mean and nasty.... ALL snakes and lizards are like WOMEN!!! The more you hold them, the more you interact with them, the NICER they are!! (Go ahead, Kim.... tell me I'm wrong! I dare you!! lmao).... get what you want, don't worry about it being tame and friendly the day you get it.... after a while, when the animal sees that it can't hurt you, and you won't hurt it.... your problems are over! Understand??? And.... if you don't know the animal.... KNOW THE DEALER!!
....Neil
 

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