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Old 06-14-2002, 12:18 AM   #21
HallsHerps
... hmmm what a difference a week or two makes huh ?...


Ok i wanna ask a few questions but sorry no </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quotes</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> as i aint going throught 20000000 pages to find them ...
ok Dave lets start back at your side ..last i remember &nbsp;you were saying alot on police reports , PI stuff and how you were about to show that Neil did it ... if i am wrong on any or all of those &nbsp;im sorry &nbsp;in advance ..Ok so &nbsp;is there any of that to be found yet on your end ? curious minds would like to know ??

Neil a question to you &nbsp;i think you said you pops was going to post something again about all of this ? just wandering if or when that may be if you knew ... again if i missed it Neil im sorry &nbsp;apology in advance ...
..Now to Angie Coker
Neil i admire you that you whole heartedly trusted and defended your employee but one thing that is PROOF proven is that employees steal more then shoplifters do or canfrom the store they work in not saying ALL EMPLOYEES ARE THEIVES. But what i mean are good employees can be great workers , never miss a day &nbsp;or few &nbsp;if any &nbsp;work when ever asked ( no complaints) love the job they have and mean it &nbsp;be everything a owner / boss could ask for ... BUT there can be times &nbsp;that the Model employee can have alteria motives(sp) as a owner / boss my self i have been where you just left &nbsp;i had a great worker &nbsp;could out work others by 50% in the construction field he had one of my trucks fully stocked with over 20G in tools drove it home as it was his .. he worked weekends when i asked him even workewd late alot after 3 yrs and lil things here get stolen from the job , or it broke or so in so hasent brought it back yet &nbsp;, a few cabinets didnt make it &nbsp;i sent them back &nbsp;and then after a xclose review of monthly charges &nbsp;guess what i found out ! well that great employee was using my company CC to charge materials to jobs that he used on his own HOUSE i found out he had a storage building &nbsp;well i decided to go buy it one day and make a inquirey on what he had in there &nbsp;i could &nbsp;use .. jokingly .. well he wanted to close the door and go have a beer on payday .. well he left his keys to my truck in the building and ho hummed about opening it up &nbsp;to get themn with a million xcuses &nbsp;... &nbsp;well what this leads to is the ones that you trust the most &nbsp;can also be the ones that can break you and take you for everything &nbsp;they can get while having other ideas all along .. &nbsp;as a footnote to this ... he is currently serving 5 yrs &nbsp;for various charges filed in suit against him &nbsp;by me and also the places he used my co CC &nbsp;so be wary ... be vary wary ... &nbsp;hope all this comes out in the washand whoever it is that did &nbsp;it ... does a lil time
 
Old 06-14-2002, 03:39 AM   #22
Neil Gubitz
Dave...the only joke around here is YOU! If you weren't so ridiculous, it would be laughable!
Of course Angie has great people skills! Who do you think taught her her people skills after watching me for 2-1/2 years! What? You think they learn this stuff by themselves??
Unfortunately for Angie....she's gullible enough to actually believe what you spin?? I think Jim Jones started that way? I got to give it to you, though...you are one heck of a "spin doctor"...as just witnessed here...no matter what lies you get caught in, you can always spin your way out, can't you??
What Angie doesn't realize (yet), is she probably just made the biggest mistake of her life! When you get talked into changing jobs...you're supposed to take a step UP the ladder...you're not supposed to walk OFF the ladder!!
I feel sorry for Tom (the owner of Amazon)...he's new to this business and he has to end up with YOU as his advisor??? Too bad he doesn't know that you have one of the WORST reputations in this business!
I just hope Angie's not dumb enough to drink the Koolaid!

Alan....Angie never HAD to steal from me! I would have given it to her FREELY! In the beginning of our business relationship, yes...I gave her a 35% discount on anything she wanted....after a while, she paid what I paid for whatever....then, I just started letting her take mice and rats and crickets home for FREE, as a "perk", not to mention about 90% of the animals she owns right now, came from me...FREE!!....I've given her countless money bonuses, tanks for her animals, I've given her $150 or so to pay her childcare overdue bill (which I never asked for back)....I loaned her $400 to buy her car (two weeks before I fired her)!
I STILL think she has been given (and listened to) some very bad advice and now she's out a great job! Obviously, Dave...you couldn't care WHO you hurt, huh....as long as you can make money from it! The true you has been coming out loud and clear! I'm certain that everyone can hear it, too!
Congratulations, now you've got Angie involved, too....you're such a good man and a true friend, aren't you?? Spin that! ....Neil
 
Old 06-14-2002, 05:32 AM   #23
Christy Grayson
Neil,
You seem like a person that goes way out of their way to help someone, I remember what you did for the child that got ripped off on ball pythons, you sent him snakes when you were not obligated to do so, that was really amazing! Not too many people would be that kind, taking the loss to make someone else happy. You also go out of your way for your employers, give them stuff and help them out, and what do they do? Stab you in the back!!! What has this world came to??? Your employers should treat you like treasure because such selflessness rarely comes along. Maybe you should hire some robots for employers! Install hidden cameras and build a crocodile pit around your store and draw the bridge up at night. Also get some of the biggest, meanest retics you can find and turn them loose in your store at night! <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> &nbsp;Sorry, I know my imagination is way too big! Seriously though, get some hidden cameras and don't let NOBODY know where they are, even employers that you would trust with your life will stab you in the back, it's a twisted world! <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> &nbsp; &nbsp;......You may want to think about that croc pit <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>
 
Old 06-14-2002, 09:36 AM   #24
Dave Lawson
Neil , Did you ever say that Angie and yourself parted ways (quit/fired) due to the fact that she was answering questions from Det. Cole,a insurance fraud inspector and Thomas Crowley days before you 2 separated?

Angie never stole a dime from you and you know it,everytime a person quits you you report that they stole snakes from you.You are afraid that Angie is going to post the truth about you and all the things you do so now you have to smear her name so people will not believe her.

She did take a giant step up the ladder and now she has a huge store and total control.Tom is not by any means "new" to the herp bizz and I am not his advisor he called me checked a client list I gave him and pick me to buy from over several others that wanted his buisness.

As far as your comment about me being caught in lies well you memory is slipping,It was "you" caught in the lies (refer to the other thread).I do believe you to be very wrong about my reputation,My sales are uppeople are happy with me and the animals they get.The peopleat the Orlando show cleaned me out with exception to 28 baby balls (but I took 100).During set up on Saturday and Sunday morning people were not laughing and making jokes about me and my Attorney but rather you and your attorney.
 
Old 06-14-2002, 11:33 AM   #25
Darin Chappell
John,

Hey man, I was in no way saying that you were wrong, jumping the gun, owed anyone an appology, or anything else! &nbsp;I was literally thinking that you had seen something in those previous posts that I had missed, and I was seriously asking for help. &nbsp;

I know so many people are sarcastic on the web that it's hard to tell whem someone is serious. &nbsp;I'll just say this to help "clear the air." &nbsp;When it comes to this subject, I'm almost always going to be deadly serious.

Sorry if I sounded like I was "taking you to task" or anything --
 
Old 06-14-2002, 01:44 PM   #26
EMERALDGUY33
Darin,

Not a problem at all . I hear you loud and clear. And I do realize that I come across at times as being sarcastic. Even when I am deadly serious. I just tend to use sarcasm as a means of self control. As at times I take things too serious and too far. More to the point, I am a very serious person by nature. Especially concerning matters such as this.

I guess sarcasm and humor are not viable excuses for lapses in tact, eh? *LOL* No hard feelings.
 
Old 06-14-2002, 06:32 PM   #27
LadyChaos
/me grabs wad of post-its and covers parts of monitor that have anything written by Dave.

I wish this board had an ignore command.

Please stop your inane comments and go clean some cages or something...you irritate us.
 
Old 06-14-2002, 07:03 PM   #28
Devonrep
Wholly cow just seen this new thread.

Lady Kaos, no disrepsect but, "irritate us"
Who's "us" &nbsp;<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>
Us= anyone opposed to Neils bs???

So now I take it Angie is the new suspect???
Sorry don't buy it either.

Only thing I know for sure reading this whole mess is Neil lied countless times and has no credibility. &nbsp;Dave seems to have issues, but his accusations seem to hit home more often than not. &nbsp;What happened to the lawsuit Neil was filing???

I hope that PI report gets posted soon. &nbsp;
Doesnt the PI and Rich Z live in the same state?
Is the USPS that slow or has the PI withheld the report once again?

Dragging Angie into this mess is sad. &nbsp;

Devon Smith
 
Old 06-14-2002, 07:04 PM   #29
EMERALDGUY33
Could you please clarify, Nicole? Who irritates you? As obviously something here was important enough to make you post. Thanks
 
Old 06-14-2002, 07:35 PM   #30
LadyChaos
Devon - us as in anyone who is tired of Dave and his unneccesary comments...the whole fiasco quieted down for a bit, and now he's back again, spouting off and getting on his high horse for no reason other than the fact that he seems to really like the attention. People like this are a personal pet peeve for me...I can't stand them.

Rich was going to try to post the report soon...yes the PI is also in FL, but I'd imagine that Rich is standing on his head with more important things at the moment...like his reptiles.

Did I say I was on Neil's side blindly? If so, track down a quote...you'll notice that I said I would *like* to see him innocent because he at least handles himself decently more often than not. I've never had dealings with either Neil or Dave. The thing is that Dave keeps (to my mind) acting suspiciously..all the dropped "clues", name calling, etc...the info about Angie just fans the flames. Who knows if the info about her is true, but it is an interesting bit. The way that Dave conducts himself just irks me to no end...maybe I'm odd for expecting more professionalism from someone who has their own business, so be it.

John....irritation from the week...work stress, dealing with idiot stress, concern about gravid females and hatchlings stress, etc. Seeing Dave's mouth run away with him again just snapped something in my fragile little mind.
 

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