MATT OAKLEY

Originally Posted by critical bill

Wow! 56 new ball pythons in less than a year from 41 different sellers.

At the frequency you are acquiring new snakes, some of them may very well spend their entire lives in your quarantine room.

Nah Chuck, all you need are 55 quarantine rooms, plus one for the collection.

Glad you had a good experience tpaul, although I personally would never support someone that has shown such absolute disrespect for their customers, but especially their animals...you get what you pay for.

Originally Posted by tpaul

Another delivery from Matt, another GREAT deal. As you can see from the pictures below, the packing was what I would call "industry standard".

Okay, first off you it appears that you received small(er) snakes and unless all 56 of your new arrivals were all coming from Matt at once I wouldn't have expected to see your order(s) arrive in a banana box. I'm glad that your order arrived alive and well but it is only for the animal's safety I am saying this. For you to continue to support someone who has blatantly cut corners and shipped animals improperly is what has some folks (myself included if you couldn't figure it out) irritated. Why would you support someone like that? That is the question of the hour. Is it because you too are cutting corners? There are plenty of people breeding out there (I'd be glad to refer you some ball python breeders) and as far as I am concerned there is absolutely no reason to deal with the likes of Matt Oakley when you could get the animal(s) elsewhere from someone who will ships ALL of their packages in the same manner, properly. I can only wonder what kind of box and condition your order would have arrived in had this thread and the Bad Guy thread not been currently active? To continue to support this person tells us that you condone his shipping practices (even if you don't - see the whole actions speak louder than words thing going on here?). Remember, you can polish a turd but it is still a turd nonetheless.

Banana boxes aside for just a minute. Lets take a look at what is in these threads about Matt.

Go back an notice that there are people with legitimate complaints about the health and quality of the animals that he is shipping out - because there have been more than would be considered acceptable. Irregardless of whether he's "made it right" the number of problems is a red flag.

Lets also consider the fact that Matt is buying up cheap animals from every source to turn around and flip them for a profit - is he QTing? them is he representing them as his own stock IDK - do you.

Now we can go back to the banana boxes and the poor rodent shipping and consider -- if he thinks this is acceptable enough to send to his customers -- what kind of mess is he feeding those animals still in his care?

Clearly there seems to be issues that he needs to get under control before he continues to sell.

Some of you may be new to reptiles - you might not realize the dangers there are dealing with someone that doesn't do it right. Don't be taken it by the song and dance. Don't just buy from the cheapest ad in the classifieds seek out quality and avoid the problems.

Originally Posted by ToshaMc

Now we can go back to the banana boxes and the poor rodent shipping and consider -- if he thinks this is acceptable enough to send to his customers -- what kind of mess is he feeding those animals still in his care?

Good point but don't forget about the animals he has also shipped in banana boxes.

Or animals with birth defects he sells..

give him a break, he didn't charge a dime for the mites...

Originally Posted by tpaul

Another delivery from Matt, another GREAT deal. As you can see from the pictures below, the packing was what I would call "industry standard". The box was well sealed, vented, insulated; inside was packed snugly, snakes secure in bags, paper towel in bags for extra cushion and for any needed absorbtion (as per the SYR video); and most importantly perfect healthy snakes. What else needs to be said. GOOD GUY.

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Originally Posted by xanaxez

I dont see anything that says this was shipped from matt. only that it was shipped to you.

Originally Posted by tpaul

LOL...Are you serious?...You people are hillarious...why the hell would I lie to protect the reputation of a person I DON'T EVEN KNOW. Oh but wait, I'm probably lying that I don't know him as well, right? give me a break...I'm not posting any more pics, I'm not the best computer guy and it was a real pain in my butt to do it once,, you've got the tracking number...run it..I spoke my peace honestly and with first hand knowledge, tried to shed some light on this matter for you people, and if you still are going to be this way, then no amount of proof I can offer will sway your opinion because you are the kind of people who will NEVER trust a word anyone says; BUT for those of you that come to the BOI to hear people give their honest account of events, you now know a little more about Matt Oakley. Do with the information what you will.

On a personal note I just have to add (because I am really shocked by the voracity with which people in the herp world slander and go after one another) that I have bought 56 Ball Pythons this year, all from KS and here at Fauna, from 41 different people and have had ZERO bad deals. EVERYONE has been great, EVERYONE has been honest and I would do business with EVERYONE I've bought from again, including Matt.

Just ran the tracking number. Departure from Salt Lake City, Utah! If memory serves me right Matt lives in Maryland!

COLVILLE, WA, US 09/17/2009 10:23 A.M. DELIVERY
09/17/2009 8:49 A.M. OUT FOR DELIVERY
09/17/2009 8:48 A.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
SPOKANE, WA, US 09/17/2009 7:03 A.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
09/17/2009 6:35 A.M. OUT FOR DELIVERY
09/17/2009 6:21 A.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
SEATTLE, WA, US 09/17/2009 5:26 A.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
09/17/2009 4:14 A.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
ONTARIO, CA, US 09/17/2009 1:45 A.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
ONTARIO, CA, US 09/16/2009 9:12 P.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
SALT LAKE CITY, UT, US 09/16/2009 8:39 P.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
09/16/2009 7:37 P.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
09/16/2009 7:15 P.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
US 09/16/2009 3:51 P.M. BILLING INFORMATION RECEIVED

Tracking results provided by UPS: 10/07/2009 12:53 P.M. ET

Originally Posted by Gloryhound

Just ran the tracking number. Departure from Salt Lake City, Utah! If memory serves me right Matt lives in Maryland!

COLVILLE, WA, US 09/17/2009 10:23 A.M. DELIVERY
09/17/2009 8:49 A.M. OUT FOR DELIVERY
09/17/2009 8:48 A.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
SPOKANE, WA, US 09/17/2009 7:03 A.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
09/17/2009 6:35 A.M. OUT FOR DELIVERY
09/17/2009 6:21 A.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
SEATTLE, WA, US 09/17/2009 5:26 A.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
09/17/2009 4:14 A.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
ONTARIO, CA, US 09/17/2009 1:45 A.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
ONTARIO, CA, US 09/16/2009 9:12 P.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
SALT LAKE CITY, UT, US 09/16/2009 8:39 P.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
09/16/2009 7:37 P.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
09/16/2009 7:15 P.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
US 09/16/2009 3:51 P.M. BILLING INFORMATION RECEIVED

Tracking results provided by UPS: 10/07/2009 12:53 P.M. ET

Didnt you know maryland is only an hour and 2 mins away from salt lake city by the post he made with the tracking number? lmao but mapquest says the distance between maryland and saltlake city is Total Travel Estimates: 37 hours 43 minutes / 2460.01 miles lol. not even a plane can deliver that package in 1 hour and 2 minutes. i smell BS in his story when sticking up for matt lol.