for Fred Tom and Kim

Alan
" Now as to saying none of his snakes have mites  i think thats a strtch" why is that a strech because the truth doesnt fit what you wanna believe, now we are back to what ifing and ops theres that word again "streching" the truth do you have some kind of evidense to prove it is such a strech for him not to have mites or you only claiming that because your ohhhhh were not going to go there

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Jason,
&nbsp;Just in case you didn't read my last post in BOI, here it is and I am not speaking or defending for anyone. &nbsp;I am simply calling it like I see it!

I came here to the BOI to see what people were posting about boa breeders and about IBD. &nbsp;I had been to kingsnake.com and left because of Cagle and Dum Jason! &nbsp;Now I come here and they are at it again! &nbsp;Here is my personal opinion: &nbsp;Cagle is stuck on himself, but not as stuck as Jason is to Cagle! &nbsp;Jason gets offended more than Cagle when people talk about Cagle. &nbsp;Therefore, Jason must be Cagle’s little (how should I say this?) female dog! &nbsp;Who cares about Cagle and Jason? &nbsp;I don’t! &nbsp;I have never met them or even seen them and really don’t care for them because of their attitude and acting like my 5 year old and 8 year old. &nbsp;I would never buy any reptiles from them. &nbsp;I am sure their attitude reflects their business ethics and right now that is very bad. &nbsp;I am sure all of Cagle reptiles can’t be bad, but his attitude of being “GOD” makes him look very ugly and God does not like ugly! &nbsp;Jason, I think you should just really go somewhere and just be you and stop trying to be Bill Cagle! &nbsp;That identity is already taken! &nbsp;Why are you always bashing Fred? &nbsp;He had completely forgotten about the issues, when YOU started kicking the dead horse, not him! &nbsp;Therefore, you can stop it now, because you are an idiot and a fool like Bill said, because you started this issue again! &nbsp;Therefore, your “Daddy” Bill was talking to you too! &nbsp;Therefore, you need to step up to the plate! &nbsp;Why is it that every time you and Bill go to a forum or have any discussion on a website it gets closed down! &nbsp;Think about it, who is the fool and idiot? &nbsp;I don’t see anyone else getting forums closed! &nbsp;This website was peaceful until you and Bill came here! &nbsp;So do me a favor, keep things professionally or stay off! &nbsp;And Jason, I know you are going to try to twist my words around, by saying I am not acting professionally, but like I said this is my personal opinion and not my professional opinion. &nbsp;So please let the horse die!! &nbsp;Thanks!!!!

Andre

Andre
your little comments about Fred lead me to beieve your buddies with him, that would explain why your post full of nothing but piss and lies, first off you didnt have to read so if your so tired of the topic, then next time dumb a$$ dont click on the link, or does it take the inteligence of a female dog to figure that one out, inteligence you obviously dont have, getting forums shut down, cant you come up with any better lies? come on you looser if you are going to make lies atleast make them logical, I didnt have to twist your words around because there nothing but lies, you screwed that one up yourself bud, get a life

&quot;You take great pride in never having lived up to anything
Lie steal cheat and kill a real bad guy
Your daddy is a winno, and your mommy is quite insane
from altar boy to sewer rat you dont give a damn
Your sister is a junkie, gets &quot;it&quot; anyway she can
Your brother is a gay singer in a stud leather band
Your girlfreind' s got herpes to go with her hep and aides
there aint one person you know you aint ripped off yet
Look deep in the mirror, look deep into itsa eyes
Your face is replaced by a creature you dipise
I know what your made of, it much Im afraid
I know youll be lying till your dying day

You're a liar
A F%$&amp;ING LIAR
Filthy Liar&quot;
Megadeth, Dave Muistane,Liar, So Far So Good So What, 1987

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&quot;that was one of my 1st question to Bill are mites a factor in this? he said no I asked if he has had any prior to this that could still be laying dormate somehwere in his building, once again the answer was no,&quot;
Does Bill sell wild caught snakes? He has never had mites in the building where he houses them?.......... Oh O.K. Casey

Hey John one more thing I was thinking about with reputatuions and IBD I know of one of the largest breeders of boa morphs in this country that has sent two differant people 3 seperate animals that died of IBD, you wanna know how he keep his good reputation? he sends off more animals worth more then the ones bought under a gag order so no one leaks the truth and ruins his wonderful reputation, considering all three animals were from seperate litters and were produced in differant years I would think it is safe to say his collection is infested or atleast certain parts of it are, and he knowing keeps producing and selling these animals, but hey hes one of the &quot;big names&quot; so its ok for him to bribe people to keep their mouths shut, but dont ask because I wasnt involved in all that I was just told by someone who had seen the vet reports, so I am not going to had out any names, it was confirmed by one of the people involved, but its not my place, I just wanted to make a point about what I was saying yesterday about very few &quot;good reputations&quot; actually being earned, later on dude

I've been reading this thread and notice that it keeps being said that there are &quot;NO MITES&quot;. Now I find this confusing, because back in the original IBD posts it's says they did have mites. Here's a copy and paste of what was posted.

&quot;I GOT MY 5 NEW BOAS AND WENT HOME. ME AND MY HELPER TALKED ABOUT WHAT A GREAT DEAL I HAD GOTTEN FROM DALE, ALL THE WAY HOME. I GOT THE ANIMALS HOME, PUT THEM IN THE QUARANTINE BUILDING, AND SPRAYED THEM FOR MITES, AS I DO WITH ALL MY &quot;NEWCOMERS&quot;. UNFORTUNATELY, THEY HAD A FEW MITES, BUT I GOT THEM CLEARED UP WITHIN A FEW DAYS.&quot;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; This is the group of boas that the IBD came from. It was from a post on the BOI. Now if these boas had mites how can anyone say &quot;there were no mites???&quot; Just curious.
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Linda

Linda whats the link to that thread? if you dont mind posting it? thanks Jason

I don't mind posting it at all. It's the one where Bill couldn't post messages and you had actually posted this one for him.

&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Linda

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/cgi-bin....4;st=10

Boy, do I feel like an ass, I do stand corrected that has been so long ago, with so much going on I completly forgot that, Thank you for posting that Linda, now I think I will just step out go over here a chew on my foot for a little while, Jason